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maxval
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| Message 753 of 1549 20 July 2011 at 3:03pm | IP Logged |
hribecek wrote:
és a feleségem is magát érzte, amikor néhány szót mondt meg
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This is the only part I didnt understand from your story. What did you want to say?
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| hribecek
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| Message 754 of 1549 20 July 2011 at 11:13pm | IP Logged |
maxval wrote:
hribecek wrote:
és a feleségem is magát érzte, amikor néhány szót mondt meg
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This is the only part I didnt understand from your story. What did you want to say? |
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This was a typing mistake, I left out the word 'jól' after 'magát érzte'
I wanted to say - and my wife enjoyed saying a few words too.
It was my limited Hungarian way of saying this.
I've heard 'enjoy' being said in Hungarian as 'érzi magát jól'. I know that it literally means 'to feel good'.
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| xander.XVII
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| Message 755 of 1549 21 July 2011 at 7:58pm | IP Logged |
Hi all, finally I managed to begin my study of Hungarian, though I have to use only
internet resources to accomplish this.
Well, I have some questions for all the users of these thread who study (or speak as
native language) hungarian.
1) How is pronounced C? Like a "z" (of Italian staZione for instance) or TS like
"bats"?
2) How is pronounced GY? Like DY in English or like GHI in Italian (hard sound for G)?
3) And how is correctly pronounced TY? Like a K?
4) What are "equational sentences"?
I meant like:
A város szép --> Which is: The city is nice. Correct?
This should be an "equational sentence" where the verb lenni is omitted.
So what exactly is an "equational sentence"?
When this rule of omission of verb "to be" is applied?
Thank you in advance for your help :)
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| maxval
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| Message 756 of 1549 22 July 2011 at 7:07am | IP Logged |
hribecek wrote:
maxval wrote:
hribecek wrote:
és a feleségem is magát érzte, amikor néhány szót mondt meg
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This is the only part I didnt understand from your story. What did you want to say? |
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This was a typing mistake, I left out the word 'jól' after 'magát érzte'
I wanted to say - and my wife enjoyed saying a few words too.
It was my limited Hungarian way of saying this.
I've heard 'enjoy' being said in Hungarian as 'érzi magát jól'. I know that it literally means 'to feel good'. |
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és a feleségem is jól érezte magát, amikor néhány szót mondott
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| maxval
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| Message 757 of 1549 22 July 2011 at 7:20am | IP Logged |
xander.XVII wrote:
1) How is pronounced C? Like a "z" (of Italian staZione for instance) or TS like
"bats"?
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It is like German "z".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolar_affricate
xander.XVII wrote:
2) How is pronounced GY? Like DY in English or like GHI in Italian (hard sound for G)?
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Something like d+y, however this is a simple sound, not a composite of "d" and "y".
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_palatal_plosive - there is a sound sample too.
xander.XVII wrote:
3) And how is correctly pronounced TY? Like a K?
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No. Ty is the voiceless pair of "gy".
It is like t+y.
xander.XVII wrote:
4) What are "equational sentences"?
I meant like:
A város szép --> Which is: The city is nice. Correct?
This should be an "equational sentence" where the verb lenni is omitted.
So what exactly is an "equational sentence"?
When this rule of omission of verb "to be" is applied?
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The verb "to be" is omitted only in 3rd person (both singular and plural), present tense, indicative mood.
And advice. Dont call the Hungarian verbs by their infinitives. In Hungarian the basic form of the verbs is not the infinitive, but the 3rd person, singular, present tense, indicative mood, indeterminate conjugation form. So this is the verb "van".
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| xander.XVII
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| Message 758 of 1549 23 July 2011 at 1:08am | IP Logged |
maxval wrote:
xander.XVII wrote:
1) How is pronounced C? Like a "z" (of Italian staZione for instance) or TS like
"bats"?
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It is like German "z".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolar_affricate
xander.XVII wrote:
2) How is pronounced GY? Like DY in English or like GHI in Italian (hard sound for G)?
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Something like d+y, however this is a simple sound, not a composite of "d" and "y".
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_palatal_plosive - there is a sound sample too.
xander.XVII wrote:
3) And how is correctly pronounced TY? Like a K?
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No. Ty is the voiceless pair of "gy".
It is like t+y.
xander.XVII wrote:
4) What are "equational sentences"?
I meant like:
A város szép --> Which is: The city is nice. Correct?
This should be an "equational sentence" where the verb lenni is omitted.
So what exactly is an "equational sentence"?
When this rule of omission of verb "to be" is applied?
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The verb "to be" is omitted only in 3rd person (both singular and plural), present
tense, indicative mood.
And advice. Dont call the Hungarian verbs by their infinitives. In Hungarian the basic
form of the verbs is not the infinitive, but the 3rd person, singular, present tense,
indicative mood, indeterminate conjugation form. So this is the verb "van".
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Thank you Maxval for your help!
Now I am going to try to write something in Hungarian, forgive for the mistakes:
Szia,
hogy vagy?
Mit tanulsz?
Lehetséges angulolt?
Én szeretek írni magyarulban is olvasni, de nem vagyok nagyon jó.
Jelenleg lakom Olaszországban, hol laksz te?
Köszönöm és szia!
Yeah I know it's a bit nonsense, however my knowledge (having begun two days ago) are
very little.
Correct me everywhere is needed, thank you!
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| maxval
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| Message 759 of 1549 23 July 2011 at 8:27am | IP Logged |
xander.XVII wrote:
maxval wrote:
xander.XVII wrote:
1) How is pronounced C? Like a "z" (of Italian staZione for instance) or TS like
"bats"?
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It is like German "z".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolar_affricate
xander.XVII wrote:
2) How is pronounced GY? Like DY in English or like GHI in Italian (hard sound for G)?
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Something like d+y, however this is a simple sound, not a composite of "d" and "y".
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_palatal_plosive - there is a sound sample too.
xander.XVII wrote:
3) And how is correctly pronounced TY? Like a K?
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No. Ty is the voiceless pair of "gy".
It is like t+y.
xander.XVII wrote:
4) What are "equational sentences"?
I meant like:
A város szép --> Which is: The city is nice. Correct?
This should be an "equational sentence" where the verb lenni is omitted.
So what exactly is an "equational sentence"?
When this rule of omission of verb "to be" is applied?
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The verb "to be" is omitted only in 3rd person (both singular and plural), present
tense, indicative mood.
And advice. Dont call the Hungarian verbs by their infinitives. In Hungarian the basic
form of the verbs is not the infinitive, but the 3rd person, singular, present tense,
indicative mood, indeterminate conjugation form. So this is the verb "van".
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Thank you Maxval for your help!
Now I am going to try to write something in Hungarian, forgive for the mistakes:
Szia,
hogy vagy?
Mit tanulsz?
Lehetséges angulolt?
Én szeretek írni magyarulban is olvasni, de nem vagyok nagyon jó.
Jelenleg lakom Olaszországban, hol laksz te?
Köszönöm és szia!
Yeah I know it's a bit nonsense, however my knowledge (having begun two days ago) are
very little.
Correct me everywhere is needed, thank you! |
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Szia,
hogy vagy?
Mit tanulsz?
Lehetséges angolul?
Én szeretek írni magyarul és olvasni is, de nem vagyok nagyon jó.
Jelenleg lakom Olaszországban, hol laksz te?
Köszönöm és szia!
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| maxval
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| Message 760 of 1549 23 July 2011 at 1:08pm | IP Logged |
xander.XVII wrote:
maxval wrote:
xander.XVII wrote:
1) How is pronounced C? Like a "z" (of Italian staZione for instance) or TS like
"bats"?
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It is like German "z".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolar_affricate
xander.XVII wrote:
2) How is pronounced GY? Like DY in English or like GHI in Italian (hard sound for G)?
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Something like d+y, however this is a simple sound, not a composite of "d" and "y".
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_palatal_plosive - there is a sound sample too.
xander.XVII wrote:
3) And how is correctly pronounced TY? Like a K?
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No. Ty is the voiceless pair of "gy".
It is like t+y.
xander.XVII wrote:
4) What are "equational sentences"?
I meant like:
A város szép --> Which is: The city is nice. Correct?
This should be an "equational sentence" where the verb lenni is omitted.
So what exactly is an "equational sentence"?
When this rule of omission of verb "to be" is applied?
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The verb "to be" is omitted only in 3rd person (both singular and plural), present
tense, indicative mood.
And advice. Dont call the Hungarian verbs by their infinitives. In Hungarian the basic
form of the verbs is not the infinitive, but the 3rd person, singular, present tense,
indicative mood, indeterminate conjugation form. So this is the verb "van".
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Thank you Maxval for your help!
Now I am going to try to write something in Hungarian, forgive for the mistakes:
Szia,
hogy vagy?
Mit tanulsz?
Lehetséges angulolt?
Én szeretek írni magyarulban is olvasni, de nem vagyok nagyon jó.
Jelenleg lakom Olaszországban, hol laksz te?
Köszönöm és szia!
Yeah I know it's a bit nonsense, however my knowledge (having begun two days ago) are
very little.
Correct me everywhere is needed, thank you! |
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Something that needs to be clarified.
The word "magyarul" doesnt mean "Hungarian language". Its a fact that many people thinks that "magyarul" means "Hungarian language", but this is not so.
There was even a discussion in Wikipedia about this, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hungarian_language/Archive _1#Mistakes.3F. Magyarul means Hungarian + -ul/-ül adverbial ending, it can be translated to English as "in Hungarian", however in reality it means something like "Hungarianly", but this doesnt exist in English.
Other example for -ul/-ül ending:
rossz (bad) - rosszul (badly)
Edited by maxval on 23 July 2011 at 1:13pm
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