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maxval
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 Message 217 of 1549
08 March 2011 at 1:15pm | IP Logged 
hribecek wrote:

It's quite possible that I'm being stupid here but I still don't get this. My English sentence was 'Now I'm a teacher, I teach English', so I don't understand why the translation is 'most tanítom vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanom'?

What is 'tanom' from? And why wouldn't it be 'most tanár vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanítom'??

I know that 'tanul' is learn.


Teacher is tanár or tanító. Tanító is in 1st-4th grade of basic school (for children 6-10 years old), after that is tanár.

The sentence "most tanár vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanítom" is perfect.

The sentence "most tanítom vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanom" is incorrect. Where is it from? Was it my sentence? I dont remember. If yes, that simply I was tired and didnt check my reply. Sorry.

Edited by maxval on 08 March 2011 at 1:16pm

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maxval
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 Message 218 of 1549
08 March 2011 at 1:20pm | IP Logged 
hribecek wrote:
maxval wrote:
hribecek wrote:
S3. You corrected one of my sentences as'Most tanítom vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanom', nem értem miért. I thought 'tanít' was a verb which would make the first part 'Now I teach I am', and if 'tanít' is a verb then when do I use 'tanom' and when 'tanítom'?


There are two diffent words: tanul and tanít. Tanul is learn, tanít is teach.



It's quite possible that I'm being stupid here but I still don't get this. My English sentence was 'Now I'm a teacher, I teach English', so I don't understand why the translation is 'most tanítom vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanom'?

What is 'tanom' from? And why wouldn't it be 'most tanár vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanítom'??

I know that 'tanul' is learn.


I found it! It was in message number 33.

You said "Most tanár vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanom nyelvi iskolában." and I corrected it as "tanÍTom" in message number 34.


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maxval
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 Message 219 of 1549
08 March 2011 at 1:33pm | IP Logged 
hribecek wrote:
Thanks as usual for such a thorough answer. You're such a fantastic resource for me!


I like linguistics, so I am ready to help in all cases when I am able to do it.

And I like people who want to learn languages.

I hate people that go to a country, live there years, and refuse to learn the local language. If I go to Ireland, for example, I would learn Irish, no matter the fact 95 % or the Irish dont speak it.

So I have even greater respect for people who learn a language WITHOUT living in the country where this language is spoken.

Edited by maxval on 08 March 2011 at 1:33pm

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 Message 220 of 1549
08 March 2011 at 2:36pm | IP Logged 
maxval wrote:
hribecek wrote:
maxval wrote:
hribecek wrote:
S3. You corrected one of my sentences as'Most tanítom vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanom', nem értem miért. I thought 'tanít' was a verb which would make the first part 'Now I teach I am', and if 'tanít' is a verb then when do I use 'tanom' and when 'tanítom'?


There are two diffent words: tanul and tanít. Tanul is learn, tanít is teach.



It's quite possible that I'm being stupid here but I still don't get this. My English sentence was 'Now I'm a teacher, I teach English', so I don't understand why the translation is 'most tanítom vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanom'?

What is 'tanom' from? And why wouldn't it be 'most tanár vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanítom'??

I know that 'tanul' is learn.


I found it! It was in message number 33.

You said "Most tanár vagyok, az angol nyelvet tanom nyelvi iskolában." and I corrected it as "tanÍTom" in message number 34.



Okay sorry if it was my mistake. Somehow I managed to copy it as your correction. I was confused about it so I'm glad I realised it was a mistake despite believing that you had written it!
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hribecek
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 Message 221 of 1549
08 March 2011 at 2:43pm | IP Logged 
maxval wrote:
hribecek wrote:
Thanks as usual for such a thorough answer. You're such a fantastic resource for me!


I like linguistics, so I am ready to help in all cases when I am able to do it.

And I like people who want to learn languages.

I hate people that go to a country, live there years, and refuse to learn the local language. If I go to Ireland, for example, I would learn Irish, no matter the fact 95 % or the Irish dont speak it.

So I have even greater respect for people who learn a language WITHOUT living in the country where this language is spoken.


I feel the same way to a certain extent, they never really get to know the country they're living in and only make friends with native English speakers or locals who are using them to practice their English.

By the way, why are you studying Hebrew? Just because it interests you or do you plan to visit or live in Israel?
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hribecek
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 Message 222 of 1549
08 March 2011 at 2:48pm | IP Logged 
maxval wrote:

Something different, I have to mention it. I am sorry to say that, but a big part, maybe half of the Hungarians are kind of xenophobic and racist people. There were attacks from clients against colleagues speaking C2 level with a little accent of the kind of “So Nokia has no enough money to hire NORMAL people? Are you a f**king Thailandese whore? Go back to Thailand or China or Russia or wherever you came from and learn Hungarian!”.

But don’t worry about this, the other half of the Hungarians are normal people!


Do you mean against all foreigners or just against certain minorities. For example here gypsies are despised and I'd say the Vietnamese and Ukrainians (big minorities here) suffer a fair bit of passive racism.

Anyway, I'd say it's the same in different forms in every country.
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 Message 223 of 1549
08 March 2011 at 3:09pm | IP Logged 
hribecek wrote:
maxval wrote:
hribecek wrote:
Thanks as usual for such a thorough answer. You're such a fantastic resource for me!


I like linguistics, so I am ready to help in all cases when I am able to do it.

And I like people who want to learn languages.

I hate people that go to a country, live there years, and refuse to learn the local language. If I go to Ireland, for example, I would learn Irish, no matter the fact 95 % or the Irish dont speak it.

So I have even greater respect for people who learn a language WITHOUT living in the country where this language is spoken.


I feel the same way to a certain extent, they never really get to know the country they're living in and only make friends with native English speakers or locals who are using them to practice their English.

By the way, why are you studying Hebrew? Just because it interests you or do you plan to visit or live in Israel?


In reality I tried to learn Hebrew a few years ago, but the textbook was so bad, that I finished my "study" after the 1st unit. A bad textbook can do much harm - this is something very important! I know people who tried to learn Hungarian using bad textbooks - almost nobody of them was successful. It is a good idea to check every book you plan to buy on amazon.com, even if you wont buy it from there, as there are always a lot of comments from people about the books.

I have no special plans. I have an interest in theology, and it is useful in theology if you know Latin, Greek and Hebrew.

Also I like Jewish culture and Israel.

Also I always wanted to learn a language that is not Indo-European, nor Uralic-Altaic.

Now I am at a very beginner level. I managed to learn how to read and now I can read Hebrew not very quickly, but at a normal speed. You know, it is read from right to left and there are no vocal letters only vocal signs, so it is little bit more difficult than English or Hungarian. It is very easy to read this way from right to left. Even I think that is more logical than from left to right! Yesterday I opened a Hungarian book and tried to read from the last page, but after 10 seconds of thinking, I realized that it was Hungarian, not Hebrew, so I have to begin on the first page... :-)))

Now I know 200-250 words in Hebrew and can conjugate verbs in indicative present and past. I have a very good American textbook, and there is also Internet resources - for example the author recorded texts from the book with her own voice. The author is a Hebrew native speaker who moved from Israel to the USA.

So I am very far away from your level of Hungarian... but it is interesting for me, and I plan to reach B1 level.
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maxval
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 Message 224 of 1549
08 March 2011 at 3:18pm | IP Logged 
hribecek wrote:
maxval wrote:

Something different, I have to mention it. I am sorry to say that, but a big part, maybe half of the Hungarians are kind of xenophobic and racist people. There were attacks from clients against colleagues speaking C2 level with a little accent of the kind of “So Nokia has no enough money to hire NORMAL people? Are you a f**king Thailandese whore? Go back to Thailand or China or Russia or wherever you came from and learn Hungarian!”.

But don’t worry about this, the other half of the Hungarians are normal people!


Do you mean against all foreigners or just against certain minorities. For example here gypsies are despised and I'd say the Vietnamese and Ukrainians (big minorities here) suffer a fair bit of passive racism.

Anyway, I'd say it's the same in different forms in every country.



In Hungary the main targets of the racists are the Jews and the Gypsies. Also all neighbouring countries are bad, maybe with the exception of Austria and Slovenia, that are considered "not so bad" by the racists.

There is also racism against foreigners, but generally not against tourists, only against people who live in the country. If the foreigner is black or yellow (Asian), its bad, but if he is pure white, neither he is good.

This is a big problem in Hungary. Since the 2010 parlamentary elections the third party in the hungarian parliament is a de facto Neo-Nazi party, it won 17 % of popular vote.


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