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| hribecek Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5138 days ago 1243 posts - 1458 votes  Speaks: English*, Czech, Spanish Studies: Italian, Polish, Slovak, Hungarian, Toki Pona, Russian | Message 161 of 1549 01 March 2011 at 5:08pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Szia Kisfröccs Sok szerencsét magyarországon. Remélem, hogy tudsz beszélni sokat magyarul! Mióta fogsz lenni magyarországon? Edited by hribecek on 01 March 2011 at 5:09pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Kisfroccs Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5198 days ago 388 posts - 549 votes Speaks: French*, German*, EnglishC1, Swiss-German, Hungarian Studies: Italian, Serbo-Croatian | Message 162 of 1549 01 March 2011 at 5:17pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Mióta ? Most nem vagyok Magyarországon :) De értem, hogy akarsz mondani, de nem jobb vagyok : én sem tudom. Győrbe utazok, két nap... 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| maxval Pentaglot Senior Member Bulgaria maxval.co.nr Joined 4862 days ago 852 posts - 1577 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Bulgarian, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Latin, Modern Hebrew | Message 163 of 1549 01 March 2011 at 7:23pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yes, there is a big difference. Megcsinálhatom a munkát = I can do the work Meg tudom csinálni a munkát = I am able to do the work
The verb "van" has a normal conjugation in both numbers and all persons. With the -hat/-het ending too: Lehetek = I can be Lehetsz = you can be Lehet Lehetünk Lehettek Lehetnek Example: "Hogyan lehetek brit állampolgár?" - How can I be a British citizen? (How can I become a British citizen?)
Its like a game for me. My original profession is linguist. While I am not and never have been a teacher of Hungarian language, I am ready to help. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| maxval Pentaglot Senior Member Bulgaria maxval.co.nr Joined 4862 days ago 852 posts - 1577 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Bulgarian, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Latin, Modern Hebrew | Message 164 of 1549 01 March 2011 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
There is no such a big difference as in English. For Hungarians studying English it is not easy to learn when one has to use "must", "should", "ought", "have", "need". The verbs "must", "have" and "ought" are the SAME for a Hungarian. The same problem is with "may", "can" and "might" - a Hungarian sees almost no difference between them.
Differences are expressed mainly by use of different words. I need cheese = Kell nekem sajt / Szükségem van sajtra I must buy cheese = Vennem kell sajtot Difference between "need" and "must" is easier to understand for Hungarian, but in both cases there can be "kell". In English language textbooks for Hungarians there is always a special chapter about English modal verbs with many examples. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| maxval Pentaglot Senior Member Bulgaria maxval.co.nr Joined 4862 days ago 852 posts - 1577 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Bulgarian, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Latin, Modern Hebrew | Message 165 of 1549 01 March 2011 at 7:34pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
"Mióta" is not the same as "meddig"... :-) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| maxval Pentaglot Senior Member Bulgaria maxval.co.nr Joined 4862 days ago 852 posts - 1577 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Bulgarian, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Latin, Modern Hebrew | Message 166 of 1549 01 March 2011 at 7:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
In Hungarian after Numerals all nouns are in Singular. Sok állat Kevés ember 500 euró 1000 font 2000 dollár 10000 forint You can see Hungarian banknotes: http://aes.iupui.edu/rwise/banknotes/hungary/HungaryP184-200 00Forint-1999-donatedsrb_b.jpg - forint http://aes.iupui.edu/rwise/banknotes/hungary/HungaryP94s-100 0Pengo-1927-donatedvl_f.jpg - pengő http://aes.iupui.edu/rwise/banknotes/hungary/HungaryP68s-100 00Korona-1920-donatedvl_f.jpg Hungarian money is forint since 1946, it was pengő between 1926-1946, and it was korona before 1926 Banknotes before 1918 are very interesting, as on one the front side text is in German, and on the back side is in Hungarian: see at http://aes.iupui.edu/rwise/banknotes/austria/AustriaP6-50Kro nen-1902-donatedowl_f.jpg and http://aes.iupui.edu/rwise/banknotes/austria/AustriaP6-50Kro nen-1902-donatedowl_b.jpg 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| maxval Pentaglot Senior Member Bulgaria maxval.co.nr Joined 4862 days ago 852 posts - 1577 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Bulgarian, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Latin, Modern Hebrew | Message 167 of 1549 01 March 2011 at 7:47pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
It will be interesting for hribecek to see that Austrian-Hungarian banknotes had also a Czech text on the "German side". There were 10 official languages in the Austrian-Hungarian Empire and all of them were used on all banknotes: German, Hungarian, Czech, Croatian, Rumanian, Serbian, Ruthenian, Polish, Slovak, Italian. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| maxval Pentaglot Senior Member Bulgaria maxval.co.nr Joined 4862 days ago 852 posts - 1577 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, Bulgarian, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Latin, Modern Hebrew | Message 168 of 1549 01 March 2011 at 7:56pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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There is an interesting thing about the Euro. The European Central Bank recommends using the word "Euro" only in Singular. In reality this is not a problem for the Hungarian language, as there is no other way to say it in Hungarian. I English it may be a problem, as normally in English it is "ten euros" and not "ten euro".
But something different: there was a heavy discussion about the use of the word "Euro" in Hungarian. Hungary wanted to use this word only as "euró", as this is the correct Hungarian form. The European Union makes no problem if it is with capital or small letter, but it demands the word EURO in the same form for all the languages of the EU (exception only for Greek and Bulgarian, as they dont use the Latin alphabet). Now there is a compromise: Hungarian official institutions use only EURÓ in Hungarian in all texts for internal use in Hungary, but the official Hungarian texts of the EU will use EURO. There was a discussion about that for a period of 10 years, it is not a joke! 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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