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| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5323 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 249 of 314 22 March 2015 at 2:02pm | IP Logged |
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Speaking of grammar constructions, I generally use this site for grammar lookups:
http://www.koreangrammaticalforms.com/ 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Ezy Ryder Diglot Senior Member Poland youtube.com/user/Kat Joined 4137 days ago 284 posts - 387 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 250 of 314 28 March 2015 at 4:14pm | IP Logged |
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I just translated Herman's Hermits' version of "I'm Henry VIII" into Chinese. Could
memorizing the corrected lyrics count for the (long overdue) February challenge? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4585 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 251 of 314 29 March 2015 at 3:58am | IP Logged |
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@Ezy Ryder: Since it's directly in your TL, any learning you do counts!
I really apologize, guys, for the lack of updates. I'm still plugging away at the March challenge, but it's been getting significantly more difficult to keep it up, as my exams are approaching, and I'm in panic mode a lot of the time now. Anyway, Just wanted to tell you to keep at it, and let me know before the month is up how you guys have been doing with our challenge! I'll also try to pop in on your threads as soon as I can. Also, did anyone here participate in the last 6 week challenge, or the current Tadoku? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5323 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 252 of 314 29 March 2015 at 5:06pm | IP Logged |
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Copy/paste from my weekly log update:
I'm calling an overall failure on my Team 東亞 March challenge. I ended this week with only 15 minutes read in each language, all of which was done last Sunday. I just can't seem to motivate myself to read during the week and having to play catch up every Saturday was getting tiring. Technically there are 3 more days left in the challenge period, but I'd rather just call this one and await the next team challenge. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5323 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 253 of 314 29 March 2015 at 6:55pm | IP Logged |
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Sorry for the double post, but It's also time for me to change quarters in my TAC goals, so it seems appropriate to post my recap and new goals
here: TAC 2015 Q1 Recap Korean: Goal K1: Watch Unsubbed Video (91 videos) Result = Partial Success (70 videos watched) While this goal did increase the amount of unsubbed Korean video I watched, which was the point of the goal, it also had the somewhat unplanned side-effect of reducing the overall amount of Korean video I watched by forcing the unsubbed requirement. In addition, since I was counting shows, not time, it was a bit demotivating compared to the Japanese video challenge which usually involved shorter videos. Were I to do this goal again, I would make two changes: a) the goal would be time based, not "video count" based and b) the goal would encourage unsubbed video (perhaps via a multiplier) but would still count subbed video. Japanese: Goal J1: Continue RTK (26 chapters) Result = Failure (12 chapters) While it does appear from the numbers that I made it halfway to the goal, nearly all that work was done in the first few weeks (in a push to finish the RTK Lite pass), then I simply never touched RTK again for the rest of the quarter. Not only did I not continue into my 2nd pass of the book, but I also stopped reviewing the RTK deck in Anki and simply never started back. Goal J2: Textbooks (39 lessons) Result = Failure, but not really (7 lessons) The reason I consider this "not really a failure" is because I did not stop actively studying Japanese. Had I simply stopped active study completely, this would have been a solid failure. However it may be better worded that I simply changed methods and started using the JALUP Beginner deck (which I then turned into its own challenge) instead of textbooks. Goal J3: Watch Videos (273 videos) Result = Success (280 videos) This is the only goal of the group that I almost always met (and often surpassed) every week. In fact, if I hadn't backed off a bit in the past couple weeks my video count would have been even higher than it was. My weekly average needed to be 21 videos, but due to steadily overshooting the goal I only had 13 videos left to watch in the final week to reach my goal (and still watched 20). Goal J4: JALUP Beginner (1000 cards) Result = Partial Success (836 cards) This goal was a late addition and more or less replaced my textbook goal (even though that wasn't quite the original intent). I started to burn out on this a bit during the past few weeks which is the only reason I didn't meet the goal as I was completely on target prior to that. I do plan to finish this deck, but I'm going to continue at a reduced pace rather than the 20/day I was maintaining originally. --- TAC 2015 Q2 Goals As stated at the beginning of Q1, I will be shifting my focus language each quarter. As such, Korean will be my primary focus for Q2. I've also made my goals more "vague" this time so I can be more flexible about how I study, immerse, etc. without torpedoing my own goals in the process. Korean: Now that Korean is back in the hot seat, it's time to make some progress. Goal K1: Active Study (65 hours) I couldn't quite decide what method to use to study Korean for Q2. In addition my Q1 textbook goal for Japanese proved that even something as vague as "textbook" isn't vague enough to allow flexible learning. So instead, all I'm counting here is time. That time can be spent doing Anki reviews, gold lists, intensive reading (including LingQ), textbooks, translation work, language learning videos, language learning podcasts, etc. As long as it is active learning time, it counts. Goal K2: Immersion (156 hours) This is similar to goal K1, but for less active methods including extensive reading, TV, and listening. Originally I planned to make video watching its own goal again, but it really made more sense to include it here so I can be more flexible about what immersion methods I use. I do, however, want to encourage L2 only immersion (as I had planned to do with my video goal), so I'm going to use a 0.5x multiplier for English subtitles. This subtitle multiplier applies to either subtitled video or to bilingual reading, but only for English. Subtitles in Korean, Japanese, Spanish, or any other language does not incur any penalty. One note, however, is that I'm *not* counting generic music listening (e.g. in the car) in this goal. My reason is not for the same reason JALUP doesn't heavily count music (as he deems music near useless as immersion but I wholeheartedly disagree with that assessment based on my own experience). The primary reason is that my MP3 player has a mix of Korean, Japanese, and Spanish music (and even a Cantonese song), so unless I force a specific language for each trip in the car, it is difficult to quantify how much immersion time I had per language. However, watching music shows still counts as does listening to the "Memorized" genre on my MP3 player which only includes songs that I have memorized (assuming I skip the sole Japanese song in that genre when doing so). Japanese Japanese will be more in the background for Q2, but I don't want to push it too far back since the language is still newer and thus less embedded than Korean. My goals for Japanese are basically the same as my Korean goals, just with lower goalposts. Goal J1: Active Study (26 hours) Same as the K1 goal, but for Japanese. As an incentive to use my K-to-J textbook, use of any Korean-based learning materials will count toward both K1 and J1 simultaneously. Goal J2: Immersion (52 hours) Same as the K2 goal, but for Japanese and with no modifier for subtitles. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4453 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 254 of 314 02 April 2015 at 1:25am | IP Logged |
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I'm afraid I've been AWOL for most of the month (well, AWOL from this thread, but my Japanese is still
meandering along!). I did wonder what I could do 100 of, but I couldn't come up with anything suitable. I certainly couldn't manage 100 pages read per day (or even per week, as it turns out). 100 daily reviews in Anki didn't seem much of a challenge and 100 minutes of anything daily is something that I knew I wouldn't manage (unless I counted 100 minutes of non-audio Japanese I suppose). Anyway, I wimped out :-( I promise to try harder for April. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| stifa Triglot Senior Member Norway lang-8.com/448715 Joined 4661 days ago 629 posts - 813 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, EnglishC2, German Studies: Japanese, Spanish | Message 255 of 314 02 April 2015 at 8:23pm | IP Logged |
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I didn't finish my goal either, even though it was pretty simple. Anyway, I did write
some Japanese on my log, but that was about my language study, an my goal was to write about anything but that, but I had no idea what to write... 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Ezy Ryder Diglot Senior Member Poland youtube.com/user/Kat Joined 4137 days ago 284 posts - 387 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 256 of 314 02 April 2015 at 9:17pm | IP Logged |
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I failed as well. My goal was to read 100 minutes a day. March might have not been
particularly busy for me, but it was quite stressful, which will be my excuse of choice. The last few days I've been watching a T-drama with subtitles though. With my listening comprehension, it pretty much can count as reading, so I hope to make up for March soon (history likes to repeat, eh?). 1 person has voted this message useful |
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