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Expugnator
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 Message 185 of 314
09 February 2015 at 8:00pm | IP Logged 
I agree with doing the song challenge this month and the 100-challenge next month.
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Woodsei
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 Message 186 of 314
10 February 2015 at 12:57am | IP Logged 
Ok, so this month's challenge will be the aforementioned song challenge. We have
roughly three weeks, and I really apologize for the long time it took making a
decision. Hopefully we already have one ready for March, so that will not happen
again.

Beginners can only do the chorus part, or a couple of verses, just as long as they're
trying to learn and recite out loud something. Intermediates can maybe do a section of
the song, and advanced learners can do the whole song.

The January challenge participants who have successfully finished the January month
challenge are, in no particular order:

yuhakko
Ezy Ryder
Expugnator
TheRealCZ
Warp3
druckfehler
g-bod
dampingwire
kraemder
sooniye
suzukaze
Josquin
Anya
Evita
Nieng Zhonghan
Woodsei


If I have missed anyone, please let me know.


Thank you all so much for your contributions. I hope we have as big of a turnout for
the February Challenge as much as we had for January.


Edited by Woodsei on 10 February 2015 at 12:58am

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Woodsei
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 Message 187 of 314
10 February 2015 at 1:00am | IP Logged 
Did anyone participate in the January Tadoku challenge apart from me? :) Would be worth
mentioning.
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 Message 188 of 314
10 February 2015 at 3:40am | IP Logged 
I may have to take you up on the suggestion to do "chorus only" for my beginner language
(Japanese) since that will probably be difficult enough to pull off in 3 weeks...hehe. I've
not really branched out beyond the "48s" (plus Kara's singles) in Japanese music yet, so my
most likely target for this challenge is SKE48's debut song (強き者よ) which has quickly
become my favorite Japanese song.

With Korean I'm leaning toward two recent favorites of Fiestar's 하나 더 or 4TEN's
Tornado. I'll have to remind myself what, if any, rap breaks they have though, since I've learned
from experience how much more difficult that makes it to memorize a song.

EDIT: Ok, is it just me or is it nearly impossible to find kana or furigana versions of
Japanese song lyrics? I can find romaji all day long (which is probably what I'll have to
use) as well as the original Kanji+Kana versions. I tried using Anki's furigana functions
but when it chose a different reading for the title than the song uses (it came up with つ
よきしゃよ rather than つよきものよ), I realized that wasn't going to be a good option.

Edited by Warp3 on 10 February 2015 at 4:17am

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 Message 189 of 314
10 February 2015 at 5:35am | IP Logged 
@Warp3: I haven't found a site that displays the kana readings alongside the kanji, but here are a couple of suggestions:

1.Anime Lyrics has a mouse-over function with the kanji, which will show you the readings. You can also use
Rikaikun (if you use Chrome) or Rikaichan/Rikaisama. A
bit of a pain, but still better than nothing.

2. You can use the romanizations, like you said, and type them into your IME, which will turn those letters into kana automatically, and then you can
copy/paste them in a text file, or a Word doc.

Hope that helps. I know it probably wasn't anything you didn't think of.


Edited by Woodsei on 10 February 2015 at 5:43am

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 Message 190 of 314
10 February 2015 at 12:11pm | IP Logged 
I just tried Anime Lyrics but it has fewer songs than I expected in the Jpop category (including zero
songs from SKE48 so I couldn't try the same song for comparison). It also only gives readings per
character rather than per word. The fact that its a bit spam happy with the popup ads is icing on the
cake...lol

I have Rikaikun installed already, so I tried it on a lyrics page and it seems to do the same as Anime
Lyrics, where it only pops up info per Kanji, not per word (unless I'm using it wrong).

I tried furiganizer.com, but it came up with the same readings as Anki's own Japanese plugin did.

What I may do is go back to Anki's furigana copy and compare it to the romanized version to manually
correct any discrepancies where the song uses a different reading than the Anki plugin chose.

I find it strange, though, that this seems to be such a glaring hole in Japanese lyric sites since having
the readings seems like it would be such a useful feature, even for Japanese speakers.
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 Message 191 of 314
10 February 2015 at 12:28pm | IP Logged 
I'm going to go balls out and try to memorize four songs, one for each language, even
though I could probably only do it comfortably in Korean.

I'm also picking ballads/slow songs for my weaker languages because there are less
lyrics.

Japanese: moumoon - Hello, Shooting Star
Mandarin: Jolin Tsai - Lip Reading
Cantonese: Fiona Sit - 一直一直
Korean: Epik High - Nocturne

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 Message 192 of 314
11 February 2015 at 12:37am | IP Logged 
I've been using twitter to update my Japanese reading/watching entries for the SC.

For some reason, this evening it decided to block my account (this was on my 3rd
message of the evening and probably the only things I've tweeted all week ... I'm not a
big twitter user!)

I went through the unblocking procedure (they send a text message), but it immediately
blocked me as soon as I tried to tweet again.

Now I've hit the limit on the number of unblock attempts :-)

Anyone else managed to get into this sort of mess?



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