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Josquin
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 Message 97 of 646
05 June 2012 at 1:33pm | IP Logged 
Thanks a lot! I've always had a good feeling for grammar and understanding is the easiest part. On the other hand, I'm not sure if I would be able to speak two coherent sentences with a Russian person at the moment...

It's not a test. I'm applying for some scholarships/grants in order to finance my PhD studies. And although I'm truly flattered that you would mistake me for an English philologist, I must disappoint you. I'm not studying anything language related, but musicology - that is mainly history and theory of music. Language nerdery is a pure hobby of mine. :)
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 Message 98 of 646
05 June 2012 at 8:34pm | IP Logged 
Ok, Ich habe entscheiden, dass ich hier auf Deutsch schreiben werde. Ich habe Angst, dass für 2-3 Monaten es einer Pidgin wird, aber... Ich hoffe, dass es kein Problem für dich ist :)
Josquin wrote:
I'm not studying anything language related, but musicology - that is mainly history and theory of music.

Na... Musik ist auch einer Sprache :)
Aber ja, du hast mich ein bisschen überrascht.
Josquin wrote:
On the other hand, I'm not sure if I would be able to speak two coherent sentences with a Russian person at the moment...

Und denkst du dass ich könnte? Natürlich außer "Нам повезло" und "У меня самоучтиель русского языка".
Aber verstehe ich sehr viel.

Edited by prz_ on 05 June 2012 at 8:47pm

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Josquin
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 Message 99 of 646
06 June 2012 at 11:17pm | IP Logged 
WEDNESDAY, 06 JUNE 2012

Sorry, folks! No update for today. I'm in the midst of some terrible paperwork which we would call 'Papierkrieg' (paper warfare) in German. But tomorrow is a holiday in Germany - again! - and I shall have some time for studying. Until then, include me in your prayers! ;)

Yours most sincerely,

Josquin


@prz_: Hey, gutes Deutsch! Da hast du mich aber überrascht. Du kannst hier gerne auf Deutsch schreiben, ich werde dir dann ebenfalls auf Deutsch antworten. Soll ich deine Fehler korrigieren?

Edited by Josquin on 06 June 2012 at 11:20pm

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 Message 100 of 646
07 June 2012 at 12:45am | IP Logged 
Wenn du Lust hast... :)
Josquin wrote:
@prz_: Hey, gutes Deutsch!

Mit meinen Worten ist nicht so schlecht, nur Grammatik... Est ist echt einer Pidgin! (Aber mag ich Pidgin(en?). Bislama z.B. ;) )
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Josquin
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 Message 101 of 646
07 June 2012 at 1:32pm | IP Logged 
Okay, vielleicht nur zwei Anmerkungen:

1. Der unbestimmte Artikel ist nicht "einer", sondern "ein/eine/ein". Also: "ein Pidgin" und "eine Sprache". Der Plural von "Pidgin" ist "Pidgins".

2. Wortstellung. Das Subjekt kommt immer vor dem Verb, außer in Fragesätzen. Also: "Aber ich verstehe sehr viel" und "Aber ich mag Pidgins".

Viel Spaß mit der deutschen Sprache! Ich werde heute abend wieder über meine Russisch-Erlebnisse schreiben.


EDIT: Vergiss Regel Nr. 2! Ich habe noch mal nachgedacht: Die deutsche Wortstellung ist sehr viel komplizierter...

Edited by Josquin on 07 June 2012 at 10:29pm

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Josquin
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 Message 102 of 646
07 June 2012 at 9:15pm | IP Logged 
THURSDAY, 07 JUNE 2012

After having finished all my paperwork I could use today for relaxing and studying.

I reviewed lesson 10. The aspects are now pretty clear to me, and I theoretically know when to use which. I guess I'm going to make mistakes nevertheless, as the whole concept is rather subtle and new to me. There are some phenomena similar to verbal aspect in other languages, but Russian distinguishes more systematically between perfectiveness and imperfectiveness of action than any other language I know.

But there is more to Russian than verbal aspects, and so I had a look at lesson 11, which deals with adjective singular declensions and asking for directions. Adjective declension in Russian is rather straightforward, only the omnipresent distinction between 'hard' and 'soft' endings and the orthographic rules for velars and sibilants make it a bit complicated. I especially like the female declension, which ends exclusively in -ой and -ей except for the nominative and the accusative. Icelandic adjectives are more difficult than their Russian counterparts in this aspect.

I also did a little translation exercise that I want to show you here:

1. Во вторник Ольга получила от Анны приглашение на день рождения. Всю неделю она думала что ей подарить. Потом, наконец, она решила купить ей книгу «Русская кухня». Там есть интересные рецепты. Ольга знает, что Анна любит готовить.

2. - Привет, Ольга! Ты тоже идёшь к Анне на день рождения?
- Привет, Света! Да, конечно иду. Я уже купила ей книгу «Русская кухня».
- Какой ужас! Я тоже хотела ей её подарить.
- Ничего страшного. Я приготовила для неё ещё один подарок - книгу о писателе Борисе Пастернаке.
- Отличная идея.

Edited by Josquin on 07 June 2012 at 9:17pm

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 Message 103 of 646
07 June 2012 at 9:36pm | IP Logged 
Ich verstehe es noch, so nicht schlecht is :D
Übrigens - was mit deinem Isländisch? :) Oh, und mit Niederlandisch auch - meiner tritt auf der Stelle.
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Josquin
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 Message 104 of 646
07 June 2012 at 9:53pm | IP Logged 
Hmm, ich studiere eigentlich immer nur eine Sprache auf einmal, deshalb konzentriere ich mich jetzt auf Russisch. Aber du hast recht, eigentlich müsste ich mal wieder was für mein Isländisch tun. Vielleicht gucke ich mal wieder ein bisschen Viltu læra íslensku?. csjc wollte mir eigentlich ein paar isländische Geschichten schicken, aber das hat er anscheinend vergessen.

In Niederländisch - oder Holländisch, wie wir meistens sagen - habe ich seit über einem Jahr nichts mehr gemacht. Holländisch ist viel zu leicht für einen Deutschen und deshalb nicht interessant. Kan jij Nederlands praten?

Edited by Josquin on 07 June 2012 at 10:33pm



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