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patrickwilken
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| Message 225 of 229 16 May 2015 at 10:56pm | IP Logged |
rdearman wrote:
I fail to see how London Weekend Television helps anyone learn any language other than English? I google searched and LWT = London Weekend Television... so, colour me confused.
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Your Google is different from mine: Learning with Texts.
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| rdearman
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| Message 226 of 229 16 May 2015 at 11:39pm | IP Logged |
patrickwilken wrote:
rdearman wrote:
I fail to see how London Weekend Television helps anyone learn any language other than English? I google searched and LWT = London Weekend Television... so, colour me confused.
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Your Google is different from mine: Learning with Texts. |
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:D
I actually have that installed on my computer. Ah well, colour me stupid then.
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| Mork the Fiddle
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| Message 227 of 229 19 May 2015 at 2:24am | IP Logged |
Jeffers wrote:
Mork the Fiddle wrote:
No one mentions LWT in this thread, though I apologize if someone does and I missed it. LWT keeps track of words learned. LWT counts a "word" as an individual word, so that see, seen, seeing and sees count as four words. Somewhat confusingly, LWT also counts phrases and expressions as individual words, should the user choose to mark them as such. In LWT, "learn" means "passively learn for reading." Marking a word as learned is done by self-assessment. The user of LWT can mark a word as "known" at first sight, or can take a new word through several stages of recognition.
Seeing my vocabulary count grow motivates me, though I do not view the counts as final or as precise and this is not my only motivation. Counting word families or lemmas might be a tougher software issue, I don't know. Watching the count of lemmas grow would be slower, I suppose, but I think such a count would still motivate me.
Using LWT for learning Ancient Greek, currently I have "learned" 22,181 words, out of 61,366 words encountered. I do highlight phrases and expressions, but I almost never count them as "learned." I have chosen to "ignore" 4,861 words. This category for the most part covers proper nouns that I never expect to see again. I began studying Ancient Greek in this way January or February 2013, and I have spent on average an hour a day, every day, using LWT to learn Ancient Greek.
In fairness, I should add that I studied Ancient Greek in the far distant past as well as a more recent past, but although I retained a working knowledge of a lot of the grammar that I learned, almost none of the vocabulary stuck with me. I am studying Ancient Greek only to be able to read the literature.
You can find out more about LWT using HTLAL's search feature. I suppose that I should add that LWT is completely free. |
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Thanks for bringing this up. I like the idea of learning vocabulary in the process of reading, and any tool which makes this easier is a good thing. I've looked into LWT, and found it to be a lot like what Transparent Language was when it first came out in the early 90s (unfortunately, it's tried to become too many things). I'm curious about using it with Ancient Greek. Do they have texts available, or did you upload their own.
The main reason I didn't keep using LWT is that I don't do much learning on a computer. But now that I have a tablet, I will see if it works on my tablet browser. Thanks! |
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| Mork the Fiddle
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| Message 228 of 229 19 May 2015 at 2:57am | IP Logged |
You have to upload your own texts to LWT.
Be forewarned that installing LWT is neither a trivial nor an impossible task. I found the following site to have a very helpful step-by-step installation guide for Windows, Mac or Linux: http://www.mezzoguild.com/how-to-install-learning-with-texts -lwt/ [note there should not be a space before -lwt in the url]. I installed LWT successfully in each of those three OS's, but I have no experience with Android devices. There is a small but fatal glitch in the Linux version, though there is a (computer geeky) workaround.
PM me if you want pointers about installing LWT or more information about using it. Same goes for anyone else thinking about using LWT.
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| Serpent
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| Message 229 of 229 19 May 2015 at 4:11am | IP Logged |
There's also a web version on Benny's site (maybe there are others, no idea). and here's the main htlal thread about lwt.
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