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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4519 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 185 of 229 14 May 2015 at 12:55am | IP Logged | ||||||||
step 1: buy a guitar step 2: hit strings step 3: ???? step 4: PROFIT! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| smallwhite Pentaglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5120 days ago 537 posts - 1045 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin, French, Spanish | Message 186 of 229 14 May 2015 at 7:27am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thank you so much for the responses. I feel all warm inside now~~* I'll be more careful when I write.
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| smallwhite Pentaglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5120 days ago 537 posts - 1045 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin, French, Spanish | Message 187 of 229 14 May 2015 at 8:01am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you do have to practise. However, you can practise in a more efficient way by following an SRS regime, where you don't practise every day, but instead, wait increasing long intervals between practice sessions. If you practise just 2 repetitions of each scale, picking the strings as fast as you can, that should take you no more than 22 minutes per day. Note though, that I am a very mature bass guitarist, currently at a 6-year interval. My last jam session was 3 years ago, and the next one won't be due in another 3 years. And the bass is my 5th instrument. YMMV. Edited by smallwhite on 14 May 2015 at 8:13am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4821 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 188 of 229 14 May 2015 at 9:07am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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And now the miraculous advice about growing 10 more cm of height, please :-)
Btw, I've just now trully realized you are smallwhite, not snowwhite, sorry 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4721 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 189 of 229 14 May 2015 at 11:09am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Move to Hobbiton. As a bonus you could probably pick up a few new languages there. And in terms of words and word families, I doubt in practice we do much different. I might make a separate card for do and doable, but probably not as the meaning is obvious. Would you have a card for do and a card for doing? On the other hand there are other examples of words that are technically in the same word family that I would make separate cards for. Just last week I was reviewing new Hindi vocabulary from two sources. My Tintin deck has सहयोग (sahyog, cooperation) while my general reading deck has असहयोग (asahyog, non-cooperation). Technically, since an initial "a" is a negation in Hindi I really don't need both cards. But since "non-cooperation" appears in very specific contexts (Gandhi's non-cooperation movement) I'm keeping both cards. All of that dredges up s_allard's original objection, "what is a word?" That's one reason I used quite wide numbers for the categories. The other reason is that the poll software only allows 5 choices, which is actually pretty pathetic. I would have liked options for "I don't count" or "I don't study vocab separately", but it just wasn't possible. Edited by Jeffers on 14 May 2015 at 11:18am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4721 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 190 of 229 14 May 2015 at 11:47am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I hope me disagreeing with you on some things doesn't put you off posting. Your posts are helpful and interesting, and if I disagree on some points it's just because you've managed to get me thinking. I still think you must be really good at memorizing things. You might not have the greatest memory (as you mentioned elsewhere), but still be good at memorizing. I'm the other way around, I can remember events that occurred in 1971 but I think it takes me longer than most to memorize facts. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6409 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 191 of 229 14 May 2015 at 2:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
But you said it's for words learnt by any means, not just how many cards you make. (Even if you do make some cards) For example, look at English words irresponsible, unimportant and hopeless. Of course some of these words are pretty easy, but so are many Spanish words if you know Portuguese. Also, one may well make cards for various forms of the irregular verbs, but that doesn't mean that they should be counted as separate words. The ranges are large, but with estimating vs counting and words vs families they become quite narrow, especially the ones that include around 1500-2000 words total. If you think a poll with more options would be more useful you can start one on easypolls.net. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| smallwhite Pentaglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5120 days ago 537 posts - 1045 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin, French, Spanish | Message 192 of 229 14 May 2015 at 3:28pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Not at all. It's the discouraging newbie part. I don't want to write things that are discouraging. But I may not know exactly (yet) what's so discouraging about what I wrote, so I'll just take extra care for the moment. You see, I write similar things on another (Chinese) forum, and I've always received positive responses: fellow learners thanking me for the encouragement, forum moderators highlighting my posts and rewarding me with forum points, etc. That the same things are seen as discouraging here takes a little getting used to.
I don't think I have good memory, but I do think I have good techniques, discipline and auxiliary skills that aid memorisation. I wrote on my Facebook a few months before I learned about SRS, that it took me the whole evening to memorise 12 Thai words. And in an email written about that time, that I had spent several evenings trying to memorise 10 Japanese words, with no success yet. All that after English, Mandarin, French, but before SRS. Edited by smallwhite on 14 May 2015 at 3:31pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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