|
 |
Lingocracy Learn by reading what you like | ||
Tags: Reading | ||
Share with:
| ||
 Language Learning Forum : Learning Techniques, Methods & Strategies |  | |
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4978 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 113 of 134 03 April 2014 at 10:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
|
I like the mouse hover option, but there should be a way to select which translation
you'd want, of course. Let's suppose there is a text which is available in 35 languages at the site, like the Universal Human Rights Declaration. I decide to use it to learn 'French', so I go to the French texts and select it. Then the system might inform me there are translations available for that text, and promptly asks me which one I want, Spanish, for example. So we have the French text to be worked on, with a Spanish translation to support. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Yaan Triglot Groupie France Joined 3886 days ago 61 posts - 88 votes Speaks: French*, English, Mandarin Studies: Spanish, Esperanto | Message 114 of 134 03 April 2014 at 10:49pm | IP Logged | |||||
I guess, that shouldn't be problem since you already have chosen your target language and your dictionary language. The text translation language should be logically based on your dictionary languages. Let's say you learn Spanish and your dictionary language is English. In that case, while reading a Spanish text, the translation will be in English. On top of that it's possible to optionnally allow a rapid switching of the translation language, but I think a such option shouldn't be used often. Thanks for the hint about the "Universal Human Rights Declaration" we should definitely create a reading list of it for each language. Edited by Yaan on 03 April 2014 at 10:50pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| DS.T Diglot Newbie ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3717 days ago 5 posts - 6 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, English Studies: French | Message 115 of 134 04 April 2014 at 2:57am | IP Logged | |||||
Do you mind giving me a specific example? (the sentences and words you are trying to connect and the target language, or send me the link of the article when this happens) The problem never popped up again recently. I believe it's been fixed:)
Do you mean making the words in the example sentences act like the words in the text? So when you hover or click on them you get the definitions? Exactly. I'll be much appreciated if you could make this work. I know many people rely on sentences to fully master new vocabularies. It is discouraging when beginners discover a couple of nice usages but understand little of them. Sorry for being absent these days. Exams took a lot of my time. Keep up the good work:) 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5677 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 116 of 134 04 April 2014 at 5:09am | IP Logged | |||||
|
I would like the sentence hover translation, but is there any way to preload it (like a pop up :hover text)? It generally takes a while for translations to load.
I wonder if it would be worthwhile to have some sort of symbol to show whether or not a sentence has a translation, if it doesn't perhaps you could give the option to provide a translation for that sentence? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Yaan Triglot Groupie France Joined 3886 days ago 61 posts - 88 votes Speaks: French*, English, Mandarin Studies: Spanish, Esperanto | Message 117 of 134 14 April 2014 at 4:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
Thanks DS.T for the details, that's helpful. :)
Yes, that should be possible. Speed is quite important, at the moment, it's a bit slow for the translations to appear, we will try to make it instantaneous.
Yes, that's a good idea. Not easy to implement and manage though :) Sorry for replying so late. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5677 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 118 of 134 20 April 2014 at 4:25am | IP Logged | |||||
|
I've seen some of the new interface changes, it looks nice!
For the speed of the translations, i imagine that if you had your own dictionaries it might be a bit faster (faster than reading from WordReference or Google, at least). I've noticed that words you've hovered over save the translation so hovering over it again provides an instant translation. It's a nice feature, though it would definitely be nice if all translations could load that fast! I've tried reading some more texts in Basque and it's still really hard, Google translate just doesn't work very well with Basque :/ Conjugation/case breakdown would be incredibly helpful. Actually, that would probably help me learn new tenses without having to formally study them in a textbook :D For now, i think it's probably the perfect tool for Chinese and would gladly use it just for that. For the other languages, at least for me personally, i don't think it's quite there. At the very least being able to load up conjugation/case charts at the click of a button would help enormously in trying to figure out tricky verbs and inflections.. I'm really liking how the site looks, though, it's looking more and more polished. Keep up the good work! 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Yaan Triglot Groupie France Joined 3886 days ago 61 posts - 88 votes Speaks: French*, English, Mandarin Studies: Spanish, Esperanto | Message 119 of 134 21 April 2014 at 2:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
|
Thank you Crush.
We tested many things in the past few months and got many useful feedbacks from HTLAL and elsewhere. The conclusion is quite clear, the backbone of Lingocracy is the Reading Lists (the content) and the Text Reader itself (the tool). So right now, we are working on refining those two features to make them as perfect as possible. Among the improvements, you should expect speed, better UI and design. We are also reworking the design of the entire website too :) I haven't forgot the case about the inflection, that's still something with high priority, but that's also still something very hard to implement too. When reading, as you pointed out, the important things are: 1. the quality of the definition 2. link the base form (inflexions) and/or providing conjugation tables I guess, the reason why it works well for Chinese is that 1. the dictionary is very good (CEDICT) and 2. that inflexion is not relevant for Chinese. EDIT:
Thank you for noticing that :) Edited by Yaan on 21 April 2014 at 2:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5677 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 120 of 134 21 April 2014 at 6:53pm | IP Logged | |||||
About Chinese, the word detection works really well and is what is missing in a lot of the other programs. It's not perfect, i don't think any automatic system can be. I think perhaps remembering how other users have formatted the text would help, but it's still really good as it is and the main thing i use Lingocracy for at the moment. 1 person has voted this message useful |
|  | 
Printable version
|
| Copyright 2024 FX Micheloud - All rights reserved No part of this website may be copied by any means without my written authorization. |
