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 songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 4999 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map | Message 281 of 331 15 July 2014 at 4:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Kanewai, many thanks for your recommendation of "The Sorrow and the Pity" on the
team thread . I'm mid-way through, and also finding it fascinating, as well as at times sobering, chilling and deeply sad. A quick question: did your version come with any French captions? - Or was it only subtitled in English? Edited by songlines on 15 July 2014 at 4:02pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish | Message 282 of 331 15 July 2014 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think JK Rowling agrees with you - I heard she started compromising the Quidditch seasons because she had no idea how to write yet another Quidditch scene without it getting horribly boring and repetitive.
I feel this happens all too often - find myself with some unexpected extra free time but end up not mustering up the motivation to get some extra reading or study done. Then when I'm busy I regret all the wasted free time I had. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4699 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 283 of 331 15 July 2014 at 5:33pm | IP Logged | |||||
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That looks like an interesting film. The version from France, which is crimson with a circle with a black and white picture of the Eiffel tower, has French subtitles (but no English subs). I just wish more of these films had both subtitles. To find it, search by the French title: Le chagrin et la pitié.
Amazon.fr link EDIT: holy cow, is it really over 4 hours long? EDIT2: got my copy this afternoon, and I'm watching it now (obviously taking a few minutes break). It is really interesting so far, and I see where a lot of the ideas for Un village Francais came from, and not just the historical facts. The music-hall song which is sung over the opening credits was sung by the school headmaster in Un village Francais. I'm sure they borrowed other ideas as well. Mine is the UK 2-disc version, with English subtitles. It was half the price of the French edition. Edited by Jeffers on 16 July 2014 at 9:39pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4679 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 284 of 331 16 July 2014 at 8:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
Mine had English subtitles. I'd love to find more shows with French subtitles. I've seen a lot of Spanish shows with Spanish subtitles and closed captions, and it really helps. There are so many flics where I need a little help, but don't need the full English subtitles. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4679 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 285 of 331 24 July 2014 at 2:41am | IP Logged | |||||
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Bumps in the road
Small bumps, but they might slow me down a bit. - My computer is finally fried. At some point I'll get a new one, but until then I won't be able to stream two series that I've gotten hooked on: Il commissario Montalbano and Un village français. I'm bummed. I can find dvds online, but they are expensive. - And the Italian kindle dictionary sucks. It wasn't too bad for most of Harry Potter - I just skipped over most of the adjectives & was fine. But for other books I need to sit down with a dictionary in hand (or more accurately, Word Reference on my phone). This isn't bad, but it means that I can't really read over lunch or on the bus. - But I did learn that I can play movies on the Mubi app on my phone. I tried it last night, and it was a different experience. Because the subtitles are so small I can't read them as fast as on the tv, and so it forces me to focus and listen a lot more closely. This has actually been beneficial. It also feels more intimate watching a movie on a small screen at night. There's no room for other distractions. Of course this won't work for big movies, or ones with lots of action. But it might be perfect for the smaller scale indie movies that Mubi hosts. Time will tell. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4679 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 286 of 331 26 July 2014 at 4:23am | IP Logged | |||||
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This Week's Highlights
From Pinocchio: Quello che accadde dopo, è una storia da non potersi credere, e ve la racconterò in quest'altri capitoli. It reads like a headline from BuzzFeed: "This carpenter made a wooden puppet ... AND YOU WILL NEVER BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!!!" ___________________________________ From Le roman de Tristan et Iseut: This is a 12th Century medieval romance based upon an earlier Celtic legend. Joseph Bédier wrote a modern version based upon the old sources, and uses original quotes as the head of each chapter. I'm fascinated by the blend of languages found in the 'court' languages of the time. I. Du wasrest zwâre baz gênant: Juvent bêle et la rinat! (Tristan, Gottfried de Strasbourg; c. 1210, Middle High German) II. Tristrem seyd: <<Ywis, Y wil défende it as knizt.>> (Sir Tristrem; c. 1330, Middle English) III. En po dore vos oi paiée, O la parole do chevol, Don jë ai puis aü grant dol.. (Lai de la Folie Tristan, Béroul. 12th C Norman) IV. Nein, ezn was niht mit wine, doch ez im glich wasre, ez was diu wernde swaere, diu endlôse herzenôt, von der si beide lagen tôt. (Gottfried de Strasbourg) V. Sobre toz avraigran valor, S'aitals camisa m'es dada, Cum Iseus det a l'amador. Que mai no era portada. (Raimbaud, comte d'Orange; 11th C?) ______________________________________ From the evil masterminds behind FSI French Basic Course: - Teacher: Dites-moi que la politique de mon gouvernement est insensée et qu'elle n'a aucune chance de réussir. - Student: La politique de votre gouvernement est insensée et qu'elle n'a aucune chance de réussir. - Teacher: Que m'avez-vous dit? - Student: Je vous ai dit que la politique de votre gouvernement était insensée et qu'elle n'avait aucune chance de réussir. I was actually thinking I had a chance at finishing FSI French this month. And then the audio got stupid hard. ______________________________________ Meanwhile, rebel angels have locked Dante and Virgil out of the city of Dis. I wasn't expecting plot twists in this book. Three "hellish, blood-stained Furies" (tre furïe infernal di sangue tinte) appear on the ramparts, and summon Medusa to turn our hero to stone and trap him in hell forever. Dante calls the furies le meschine de la regina de l'etterno pianto - "handmaidens to the Queen of Endless Pain." I'm not sure who this Queen is, but I love her title. She sounds like a character from an old Anne Rice novel. ______________________________________ Back in Troy: Agamemnon is an ass. And honestly, so is Achilles. Edited by kanewai on 26 July 2014 at 4:31am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4679 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 287 of 331 02 August 2014 at 3:41am | IP Logged | |||||
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I've been intrigued by EMK's post on the Cheating & Consolidation method -
EMK - and have been thinking about how it fits into how I study. Opaque: Arabic (still building the framework of the language) Cheating: Ancient Greek, Turkish (total reliance on Assimil & parallel texts) .................French writing Decipherable: Italian, Spanish (I can read with lots of dictionary help) Consolidating: French speaking Transparent: French reading It provides a nice framework for assessing where I'm at. Edited by kanewai on 02 August 2014 at 3:42am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4679 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 288 of 331 07 August 2014 at 10:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Transition Time
My summer is going out with a bang. In the next couple weeks I've got two hurricanes (meet Iselle and Julio, below), a 12 hour flight to New York, a drink-filled weekend with friends on Fire Island, a 16-hour train trip, a drink-filled weekend with my family on Lake Michigan, and a 16-hour train/plane trip home. Basically I'll be alternating between having lots of lovely free time to do my own thing, and lots of time where I won't be touching any book of any kind. 
I'll switch up my techniques when this is all over, but will keep the same target languages for the fall. French. Super challenge is going well, and I finally finished FSI three years after starting it. I thought the final chapter was incredibly useful, and I plan to revisit it a couple times over the next year until it's internalized. I plan to continue as is for the fall. Italian. I hope to finish Living Language Intermediate this weekend. Super challenge is also going well, though I am starting to have trouble finding good films. I'm also slowly moving into native literature, though I still think Umberto Eco is a ways off. I'm currently reading Pinocchio, which is a good beginner level book. Arabic. Finished Pimsleur Level 1, and am halfway through Michel Thomas Advanced. The MT course is phenomenal; it's actually helping me make connections that I have completely missed during other rounds of Arabic study. Turkish. I've been treating Assimil as a 'text' rather than a 'method,' using the dictionary to figure out the dialogues. I do about two chapters a week this way. It's working so far. I'm only on Chapter 30, out of 77, so this is going to be a slow process. I'm not in a rush with Turkish; I just want to keep the language fresh in my mind. At some point I'll switch my Italian and Arabic methods, and do Living Language for Arabic and continue with Pimsleur 3 with Italian. I'd also like to switch out Italian for Turkish with Assimil; I suppose I can go back to FSI Turkish then. I don't think I want to do two Assimil at once (or two of any one program at once). Ancient Greek. Homer is becoming slightly less hard. Currently on Line 140 of 600 in The Iliad. Agamemnon and Achilles are starting to quarrel over who gets the prettiest slave girl. Edited by kanewai on 07 August 2014 at 10:34pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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