Akao aka FailArtist Senior Member United States Joined 5133 days ago 315 posts - 347 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Toki Pona
| Message 1 of 72 01 May 2010 at 2:10am | IP Logged |
I cannot comprehend.
Can someone explain?
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Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5474 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish
| Message 2 of 72 01 May 2010 at 2:58am | IP Logged |
Some people think languages that do not have cultural background are not worth studying.
Also, some people resent the fact that Esperanto claims to be neutral in its origins.
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Akao aka FailArtist Senior Member United States Joined 5133 days ago 315 posts - 347 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Toki Pona
| Message 3 of 72 01 May 2010 at 3:01am | IP Logged |
Paskwc wrote:
Some people think languages that do not have cultural background are not
worth studying.
Also, some people resent the fact that Esperanto claims to be neutral in its origins.
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I understand that but I would like to know WHY they think that.
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Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5474 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish
| Message 4 of 72 01 May 2010 at 3:29am | IP Logged |
Item 1: If I'm learning Esperanto, I'm not (directly) opening myself up to new cultural
experiences. There isn't a body of literature, mythology, cuisine, or anything.
Esperanto is a tool that allows for communication, but does not hold any significance
as a language. As someone wrote earlier, hammers are useful tools but it's hard to
endear oneself to one.
Item 2: Esperanto is a kitbash of Slavic, Germanic, and Romance languages. Esperanto's
claims of neutrality have some resonance in a European context but not so much
elsewhere. For example, Japanese or Punjabi speakers can't find much in Esperanto that
relates to their languages. Thus, when non-Europeans look at Esperanto, they see a
European language.
Edited by Paskwc on 01 May 2010 at 3:30am
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GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5320 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French
| Message 5 of 72 01 May 2010 at 4:00am | IP Logged |
I like Esperanto. I would like it so much better if it wasn't so Romance-centric, and if it didn't have politics often bundled in.
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mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 5876 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map
| Message 6 of 72 01 May 2010 at 4:31am | IP Logged |
I'm a bit puzzled - are there a lot of people going around hating Esperanto? Could you
perhaps point me towards some of them?
Edited by mrhenrik on 01 May 2010 at 4:33am
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Akao aka FailArtist Senior Member United States Joined 5133 days ago 315 posts - 347 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Toki Pona
| Message 7 of 72 01 May 2010 at 7:02am | IP Logged |
Google "Esperanto not" and you get a TON of Esperanto hate results.
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Mafouz Diglot Groupie Spain Joined 5122 days ago 56 posts - 64 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: German, Japanese, French
| Message 8 of 72 01 May 2010 at 11:14am | IP Logged |
Uhhh, I did the googling and I don't find that many anti-esperantist sites. The points made by Justin Rye and the arguments in the wikipedia make some sense, and it is not the first time I hear them.
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