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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4986 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 345 of 1702 25 May 2012 at 7:43am | IP Logged | ||
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I broke out Anki tonight. There's an RTK2 premade deck on it. I'm reading RTK2 and frankly not sure how to make the flashcards... must I test myself on the word he provides or is it enough to know the pronunciation of the reading of the character? He says not to put the character on the front to test since later characters will repeat with different sounds so you should put an actual word. Of course I didn't figure that out until I was over 100 cards into my deck - annoying. Not his fault just annoying.
I figured a premade deck was the way to go and I got it off Anki. I am an Anki noob but I figured out how to increase the font - really not intuitive it's like editing code. But the deck works and I like the format where I get lots of control over how cards get repeated. Then this deck has a mistake just over 20 cards into it... ugh. I know that you will generally get mistakes no matter what even for published stuff but I have barely started this deck and I've found one. It's not huge.. he gave the meaning of 加 as to know instead of to add to. But then if he's making careless mistakes already how do I know the stuff I'm studying for the 1st time (the readings) aren't messed up? So much for this deck. I'm thinking I might just start over on my own deck again. I'm more tolerant of my own mistakes heh. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4986 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 346 of 1702 25 May 2012 at 7:51am | IP Logged | ||
This really describes the majority of my kanji. It's getting better slowly. Once I finish RTK and I'm pretty happy with knowing the stories etc I am going to use one of those kanji drawing apps on my ipad like kanjibox or kanji ls to get stroke order and ratio of the primitives to each other down better. After putting so much time into this kanji thing you want it to look good ;/. I have a classmate who write beautiful kanji and I'm really jealous. She won't to RTK though so she doesn't know nearly as many kanji as I do but man hers look nice. Edited by kraemder on 25 May 2012 at 7:52am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4986 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 347 of 1702 25 May 2012 at 7:57am | IP Logged | ||
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Ok. Out of laziness I think I will assume the author of this RTK2 deck only makes mistakes with stuff that doesn't matter. I'm gonna stick with his after all ;p.
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| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6422 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 348 of 1702 25 May 2012 at 8:20am | IP Logged | ||
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I think as long as you are reading the book at the same time as you go through the deck, you will notice most of the mistakes.
I'm trying to make my own deck now since there were several people suggesting it. I don't really like to use other people's decks. Even if they didn't have mistakes, they just never set up things the way I would have. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5784 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 349 of 1702 25 May 2012 at 9:02am | IP Logged | ||
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I use squared paper to practice writing kanji, which helps a bit to improve the balance of more complicated characters. I write each character out over a block of four squares. But I often end up running out of space for characters with a top down kind of pattern like 喜,裏,量 and they end up all long and thin.
I've never been a Heisig person but I was wondering, does the method help you to remember the order of each component of the character? Simple characters like 知, 加, 功 give me trouble as I often forget which bit goes on the left and which on the right. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4986 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 350 of 1702 25 May 2012 at 10:02am | IP Logged | ||
That depends. You come up with a little story for the kanji to remember it so if you incorporate the order of the components in your story then that will help you to remember. Personally I just sort of visualize the kanji in my head and knowing the components I'm usually ok although not always - but I haven't finished RTK1 yet so I think that's to be expected. I didn't write this story (not that mine aren't cheesy) but for your 1st kanji 知 The story I use is "The know it all went to dart mouth college. In this story dart comes before mouth so that sort of helps you with the order although this one I see a lot so I don't have an issue... now 加 on the other hand I don't see so much. I haven't messed it up in a while though for some reason I guess my visual memory is better than I give it credit for heh. I know when I first was learning that one I had a 50/50 chance of getting it right. I'm not even sure what my story is for it something about a powerful mouth increasing Harry's spells or something. I guess that would give the order too.. except I haven't even recalled the story when writing it I always just write it based on visual memory. Cuz I'm dumb like that. I need to pay more attention to my stories lol. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4986 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 351 of 1702 25 May 2012 at 10:32am | IP Logged | ||
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I may learn to love ANKI afterall... I just setup my dropbox with it and found out my ipad app does do the
sounds (not the text to speech plug in I don't think) but I grabbed an N3 deck full of native recordings.. so nice.. and this interface is good too. So many add-ons available.... wow. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4986 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 352 of 1702 25 May 2012 at 10:36am | IP Logged | ||
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oh my.. I just loaded up pandora on my ipad along with the anki app and it mixed the music and the flashcard audio no problems at all. I am very pleased XD.
(On an ipad/ipod usually only one app can play sound at a time) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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