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| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5447 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 49 of 314 27 December 2014 at 10:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
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To be "inclusive" and "politically correct," the team name can also be 東亞, as that is
how Korea and Taiwan write "East Asia" in characters. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4595 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 50 of 314 27 December 2014 at 10:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
Thanks for the clarification, CZ. I think having an all-inclusive name that also uses the characters is the best way to go. Anybody else supports this decision? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5447 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 51 of 314 27 December 2014 at 11:25pm | IP Logged | |||||
Technically, that's the traditional way to write it. (Taiwan, Korea and Hong Kong use traditional characters). The Japanese and main Chinese have their own simplified versions. For instance, this is the simplified Chinese version for whoever wants to use it: 东亚. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5333 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 52 of 314 28 December 2014 at 12:15am | IP Logged | |||||
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When I added that to my log title as provisional, I actually used 東亞 (the traditional
characters) because Korean was the only language for which I knew the readings of both characters and those are what the Korean IME generates. I didn't even notice until someone pointed it out that the second character looks slightly different in Japanese simplified form. On that note, what are the readings of that word in the various East Asian languages? Korean is 동아 (dong-a) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4595 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 53 of 314 28 December 2014 at 1:40am | IP Logged | |||||
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@Warp3:
Reading of 東亜 is （とうあ）/toua. The above one you and The Real CZ mentioned for Korean used to be used in Japanese, but is now outdated. Don't know if that means we can use it... Edited by Woodsei on 28 December 2014 at 1:44am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5333 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 54 of 314 28 December 2014 at 2:05am | IP Logged | |||||
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Part of my reason for mentioning that I had used the traditional characters without noticing
they were even different was to imply that I'm not sure it really matters which character set we use for that since they all look similar enough to be recognizable. In fact, I'm assuming that is what CZ was getting at with his posts: pointing out the alternate versions that could be used by various members depending on which languages they study. In fact, choosing any Chinese character or phrase is likely to have the same issue unless it is one that simply doesn't happen to have a simplified form. Edited by Warp3 on 28 December 2014 at 2:07am 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4595 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 55 of 314 28 December 2014 at 2:58am | IP Logged | |||||
I see your point. And it does make sense keeping it language specific. The fact that the character "東” is in the title says it all, regardless if it's Korean/Mandarin/Japanese. I don't know any Korean or Mandarin, so I hope you didn't mind my confusion o_o. Now that I think about it, simply putting "東” might be another good idea. Kind of like Team い in the past. Although it looks kind of cliche. I don't know. I'd love to hear from you what you think. As of course everyone else. Edited by Woodsei on 28 December 2014 at 2:59am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5447 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 56 of 314 28 December 2014 at 3:18am | IP Logged | |||||
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Mandarin: 東亞/东亚 dong1 ya4
Cantonese: 東亞 dung1 a3 Korean: 東亞 dong a Japanese: 東亜 toua The only bad thing about learning these four languages is that Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong use traditional while mainland China and Japan each have their own simplified characters. It's just extra effort to learn simplified characters haha. Warp hit the nail on the head. I think the team members should feel free to use any of the three versions of the word. Personally I'll use the traditional since I'm studying Korean, Taiwanese/Traditional Mandarin, and may resume Cantonese during the year. Edited by The Real CZ on 28 December 2014 at 3:20am 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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