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| reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6241 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes  Studies: German | Message 41 of 47 03 July 2009 at 4:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Maybe someone can also invent a book where two texts are arranged in parallel manner. Or a book containing an alphabetical list of words, with information given for each word.
As I have mentioned earlier you may also try smoking a very large book or a series of books. Obviously, you need to read every page and only then roll it up and smoke it. You may actually turn into a new literary sensation a la Joseph Conrad. Potential side effects (i.e. lung cancer etc.) may be mitigated with the right choice of tobacco. I believe it is also necessary to include a warning here that you should first consult your physician about the negative side effects of prolonged smoking/inhaling of such substances. In fact, the prolonged consumption of literature and other cultural products may also need a closer look from competent authorities. Edited by reineke on 03 July 2009 at 5:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6233 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 42 of 47 03 July 2009 at 4:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
You have it backwards, actually. I pronounced -er as if it were a clear English "er", while it's actually reduced into a very specific vowel in German - neither an e nor an a, but sounding somewhat similar to both (I believe the closest IPA symbol is ɞ, although the material I'm using uses a slightly different symbol, which isn't on Wikipedia's IPA charts). My brain had words ending in -e and -er in very different boxes, for reading, writing, and speaking (although I was saying them wrong). Only in listening was I consistently hearing -e, regardless of which was said. I severely doubt it's permanent - I've learned to distinguish the sounds, although only a large majority of the time. It took some hours of work after I realized it was a problem. Damaging, sure; painful to eradicate, certainly (this is probably a major reason I have the genders of so many German nouns wrong - simply learning to hear it correctly from now on doesn't retroactively fix that), but I have my doubts about permanent.
That sounds quite a lot like my Spanish pronunciation a couple of years ago (I'd never studied the language, but had read a bit in it). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hashimi Senior Member Oman Joined 6053 days ago 362 posts - 529 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)* Studies: English, Japanese | Message 43 of 47 03 July 2009 at 5:43pm | IP Logged | |||||
I understand everything you said in this thread except this. How can you use this method with a dead language? Are there DVDs in dead languages? Can I watch The Mummy Returns for example dubbed in ancient Egyptian? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 5942 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes | Message 44 of 47 03 July 2009 at 5:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
She means listening to Italian while reading Latin for example. Isn't that the basis for your method? Listening to the audio in a language you know while reading the foreign language? In that case you should be READING Ancient Egyptian, although given the nature of the writing system it's probably only possible for Coptic. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6469 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 45 of 47 03 July 2009 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
This doesn't prove anything. You can fix it. If you want to learn a language as an adult, the only "permanent damage" is caused by your native language. Hashimi, do whatever you want in your target language as long as you interact with it and keeps you motivated. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| icing_death Senior Member United States Joined 5655 days ago 296 posts - 302 votes Speaks: English* | Message 46 of 47 04 July 2009 at 4:59am | IP Logged | |||||
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Although there are some things I like about this technique, I'm primarily after verbal communication, so I don't
prefer it. If one isn't interested in conversation, I suppose this isn't bad. Kudos for coming up with something new. As for bad pronunciation becoming fossilized, I think that takes a long time. Fossils are pretty old. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hashimi Senior Member Oman Joined 6053 days ago 362 posts - 529 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)* Studies: English, Japanese | Message 47 of 47 04 July 2009 at 11:45am | IP Logged | |||||
I understand that, (in that post I meant subbed not dubbed), but are there many subtitles in dead languages? It maybe used for books only, something like listening to an English or Italian audiobook of the Bible and reading the Latin translation or the Koine Greek original book. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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