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| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5056 days ago 2237 posts - 6731 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 9 of 29 28 August 2012 at 9:03pm | IP Logged | ||
Of course not, but remember "long haired dictionary"? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5128 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 10 of 29 28 August 2012 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | ||
Quite. Because in Germany if a woman and a man have 10 lovers each, he will be heavily criticized, and called names, and the woman will be considered the most eligible bachelorette in town. I see. Since Norway is one of the most equal and the most liberal countries in the world, I would be very surprised if there are not the same double standards most other places. Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 28 August 2012 at 11:00pm 6 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4622 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 11 of 29 28 August 2012 at 11:38pm | IP Logged | ||
It's not really the same, but I suppose "toyboy" or the rather old-fashioned "gigolo" have similar negative connotations. On the other hand, if a not-too-old, virile male "puts himself about a bit", I suppose he would be known as a "stud". By the way, in England, especially in the past, "Dirty Old Man" didn't always necessarily have the connotation attached to it by Cristin in post 1. For example, anyone who remembers the old TV series "Steptoe and Son" will have heard Harold Steptoe calling his father (Albert) a "dirty old man" on a regular basis, and he wasn't referring to his sexual habits, but his poor hygiene and eating habits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steptoe_and_Son 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 meramarina Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5761 days ago 1341 posts - 2303 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Italian, French Personal Language Map | Message 12 of 29 29 August 2012 at 12:12am | IP Logged | ||
In English the word "cougar" is used to describe a woman who goes after younger men. This is a new word. I'm not sure there were any words for this until recently. Not that I would know! Edited by meramarina on 29 August 2012 at 12:13am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4683 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 13 of 29 29 August 2012 at 12:49am | IP Logged | ||
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Wow, Solfrid - this sounds like the opening to a personal ad to me! I almost blushed
reading it, then thought ... she can't possible mean what I think she means. In the US "pig" is gay slang for a man who likes lots of lots of sex, with lots of men, and has no shame about it. A dirty pig likes nasty sex. It's not quite an insult, and among some crowds it's a term of endearment. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5577 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German | Message 14 of 29 29 August 2012 at 2:19am | IP Logged | ||
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Regarding other countries I couldn't comment, but in the UK I'm not sure I agree that
the rules are always stricter only for women. As a man with no kind of position or money I certainly feel heavily constrained about what I can and can't do and regularly see more powerful people flouting these rules with impunity. In this particular instance, if more older men go for younger women it's surely because (sadly) more older men than older women have the money and power* to successfully pull this off and it stands to reason that this power will protect them from criticism to some extent. Indeed the very image of a "dirty old man" bears this out...he is usually imagined as a low status older individual "perving on" younger women rather than a high status older man successfully dating them. It is certainly true that the rules are stricter for women, but they're also almost as strict for less powerful men. Regarding "slags", I quite happily refer to both men and women as "slags", which is wrong of me, but at least I do it equally for men and women. Also, I don't know about other speakers of UK English, but for me sleeping with a lot of partners does not necessarily make you a slag. It's hard to explain what does. I used to work with a young (very sexually active) chef who boasted about someone performing a sexual act on him on the dance floor in a nightclub. I also once saw him apologise to a pretty girl he worked with when he was completely in the right and she was the one totally out of order, I asked him why he had done this and he said, "I have to because one day she might sleep with me." Total slag (but I liked him anyway). * note that I am not just talking about what is seen as power by the overwhelmingly middle class UK media, working class people (at least in the UK) have a whole separate hierarchy that can be quite as vicious and repressive (and that many (middle class?) people in the media seem surprisingly oblivious to. Edited by Random review on 29 August 2012 at 2:40am 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 4924 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 15 of 29 29 August 2012 at 3:01am | IP Logged | ||
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With all the Spanish speakers on the forum, I'm surprised no one's mentioned "viejo
verde". R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5128 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 16 of 29 29 August 2012 at 6:26am | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for the laugh! I can probably be accused of a lot of things, but being a gay man who loves dirty sex with lots of men is not one of them. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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