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Spanky
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Canada
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 Message 1 of 33
10 February 2015 at 12:49am | IP Logged 
My family and I have just confirmed plans to travel with friends to Iceland in July 2015, with the intention of sacking a village and pillaging and such, all as delayed revenge for past Viking excursions against my ancestors many generations ago.    These plans are highly controversial and still quite secretive, so please keep them to yourselves and tell no one.

In aid of this cunning plan, I am hoping to learn just as much of the Icelandic language as possible.   I studied Icelandic for about two weeks several months ago, and all I really learned was the following:

(a) If one were to set out to design a language to be as unlearnable and as impenetrable as humanly possible, that language would look very much like Icelandic; and

(b) There simply is no way I would be able to learn this language.

So I am starting essentially from scratch. Actually, from worse than scratch, because I am counterproductively approaching this project with considerable dread born out of my previous limited experience.

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Spanky
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 Message 2 of 33
10 February 2015 at 12:50am | IP Logged 
Purpose of log:

I will use this log as a record of my efforts (I was going to say “progress” but really that is much too optimistic a thing to say), mainly so that when I am found lying on the floor of my room curled in a fetal position with a broken brain, the medical specialists may be able to use this log to retrace my steps and hopefully reverse whatever damage this wretched language may have wrought.

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Spanky
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 Message 3 of 33
10 February 2015 at 12:53am | IP Logged 
Approach and Goal:

I am aiming for a relatively-aggressive three hours per day of study, including sit down study and eccentric mumbling on the bus while actively listening to and repeating Icelandic recordings, which began February 6th and which hopefully will continue to June 30th .   No particular longer-range study plan is contemplated at present.

I would like to have developed a rudimentary understanding of Icelandic before travelling there in July, and hope to have at least one conversation with anyone there who may be very very patient and who may be prepared to speak with me very, very slowly.   At a minimum, I hope to come close in being able to correctly pronounce Icelandic place names while there.

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Spanky
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 Message 4 of 33
10 February 2015 at 12:55am | IP Logged 
Outcome:

(to be completed subsequently, no later than July 2015)

I am (surprised/not surprised) to report the following with respect to this hopelessly-misguided language learning project:

I …
__ … quit this learning project in February, 2015 (83% probability)

__ … quit this learning project sometime in March to June (13% possibility)

__ … continued learning Icelandic in a desultory fashion, managed to mumble a few words in Icelandic while actually in Iceland, and got ignored or scowled at. Or just spoken to in return in English, which I understand Icelanders understand better than I do. (3.999% possibility)

__ … continued bravely to push through this beast of a language and while on vacation, I actually did manage to have a simple, slow conversation in Icelandic with an Islander, thereby winning the admiration of my family and the local townspeople, the latter of whom may be tempted to throw a parade for me to celebrate my awesomeness in language learning. (at best, on a chilly day in hell, a 0.001% outside chance, and any parade would likely be fairly small).

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Spanky
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 Message 5 of 33
10 February 2015 at 12:58am | IP Logged 
Resources:

There is a relatively quite limited amount of English-language-based learning
materials available for Icelandic compared to other more popular lanuages, but I have
poked around on the interweb a little and will keep track here on an ongoing basis of
learning materials for my own reference and for the possible interest of anyone else
masochistic enough to tackle this challenging language.

Learning materials

Alaric Hall course
material
- audio-based course - à la Michel Thomas

phrases/">updated Alaric Hall memrise course

not online materials, but a plug for this text which I found useful:
ie=UTF8&qid=1428767447&sr=8-1&keywords=hippocrene+icelandic" >Hippocrene, Beginner's
Icelandic


Memrise course related to the above text/audio:
Beginner's Icelandic
(Hippocrene)


Short articles on individual grammar issues:
Mímir

University of Iceland audiovisual materials - A1 through C1
Icelandic Online

Video-based materials:
Viltu læra íslensku?

More advanced materials:
Bragi materials

Online dictionaries

University of Wisconsin
online dictionary and selected readings


dict.cc - eng/isl

Interactive assistance with inflections:
inflection wizard


Memrise courses

Icelandic course
inventory


3000 flash cards -
many but not all words accompanied by native audio

Icelandic
for Beginners
- course created by Alaric Hall concerning vocab from his original
mp3 course (no audio).

Other material

bilingual texts

interesting blog - interesting
Icelandic learning blog from Pierre-Emmanual Roy

youtube material:

expert
village videos
- 30 videos with normal, then slow, pronunciation of
thematically-organized phrases

pronunciation video

Björk-related

nature documentary, I guess

sssssshhhhh!

Edited by Spanky on 12 May 2015 at 5:08pm

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daegga
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Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic

 
 Message 6 of 33
10 February 2015 at 1:43am | IP Logged 
Save yourself some agony and approach Icelandic the Old Norse way. Reading sagas is fun,
reading about sími, tölva, sjónvarp and the like is not. The curse of modern
civilization.
http://www.snerpa.is/net/isl/isl.htm has the sagas of Icelanders in modern
spelling. Better for extensive reading than anything modern.
http://www.sagadb.org/ has some of those too + in pdf/epub format. And with
English translation --> nice for making parallel texts.

Whatever you do, ignore every word that describes something that didn't already exist in
12th century. It's just not worth it, and it makes the whole project much more pleasant.
:)
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redflag
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Studies: Danish, Indonesian, French

 
 Message 7 of 33
10 February 2015 at 3:17am | IP Logged 
Good for you, Icelandic is at the top of my "one day" list.   Glossika has a Icelandic
package I know already released which might be good if it suits your preferred way of
learning.

Good luck!
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dmaddock1
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 Message 8 of 33
10 February 2015 at 4:17pm | IP Logged 
Spanky wrote:
At a minimum, I hope to come close in being able to correctly pronounce Icelandic place names while there.


Good luck! When I was there many Islanders laughed at my attempts (in a good-natured way).

Totally random: Will you be there on Canada Day handing out flag pins? I met a Canadian doing just that at a swimming pool on my trip. (Speaking of, don't miss a chance to go to one.)

In case you haven't seen it, check out these Michel Thomas-like lessons for English speakers.


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