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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6403 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 65 of 76 28 December 2013 at 5:41am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Remember that not everyone cares about cinema. Not everyone is learning big languages. I can disapprove of not liking reading as much as I want, but there are alternatives for those who really don't like books. More importantly, reading can be done everywhere, so that's exactly why it makes sense to allow audio-only materials too. And I'm pretty sure that everyone understands that listening in the background is not the same thing. Personally, most of my "movies" are football matches. They also teach you a lot about the TL culture. But I'm not saying everyone should watch them just because I love them. And nobody is changing anything. Not restricting audio to movies was decided/"approved" before the challenge even began. Edited by Serpent on 28 December 2013 at 5:44am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4674 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 66 of 76 28 December 2013 at 11:34am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Personally all my "movies" were movies and TV series. I wrote listening and reading because that seems to reflect the reality of what people did far better than "books" and "movies". I also think it's weird to call 100 pages a "book", to be honest, without taking into account what kind of reading it is. That's why I didn't log my reading the way everyone else did. Edited by druckfehler on 28 December 2013 at 11:35am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4715 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 67 of 76 28 December 2013 at 12:02pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yes it was approved. So were all the additional challenges (writing, conversation, etc). But a couple people are now changing one thing: they are calling it a reading and listening challenge. That is a change.
When I looked at the tweets of the people I followed, they all watched films or TV series; I didn't notice any of them listening to anything. But I only looked at people who were also studying French. I suppose you looked at different people. Anyway, I am not objecting to anyone using audio to "count as" watching, if that's what they really want to do. Everyone has to make their personal choices. I just think a film and book challenge sounds more interesting, and was the original suggestion by Solfrid which appealed so much to so many people. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
 emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5338 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 68 of 76 28 December 2013 at 12:48pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Just a small request: Could we please try to avoid making this awkward for Solfrid? You know she doesn't enjoy having to referee contentious discussions.
A lot of people have a few podcasts, audiobooks, etc., mixed into the "movie" part of the challenge. For example, here are my non-movie, non-TV entries:
Yes, I really did watch 5 hours of video game walkthroughs on YouTube one afternoon. :-) It was a surprisingly productive exercise. And I actively listened to several podcasts, a short audiobook (several times), and several streaming radio shows. And if you look through other people's history, lots of people have wide variety of things listed under "films". And of course, a huge number of people mostly watched TV instead of movies, myself included, because TV is far cheaper to acquire legally, and because it's often more accessible at the intermediate level. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6403 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 69 of 76 28 December 2013 at 12:59pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
But yeah it's very telling that changing the name feels like a more drastic change. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4715 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 70 of 76 28 December 2013 at 1:03pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I agree, and I'm sorry if I diverted the discussion. If I was being contentious it was because I was trying to bring things back to her original idea, which was wonderful in its simplicity. And every time I plan to post in here, I have started out with the intention of thanking Solfrid and Surrealix for all they did to make this possible. So, here at last.... Thank you thank you thank you thank you! Merci beaucoup beaucoup! धन्यवाद और शुक्रिया। Edited by Jeffers on 28 December 2013 at 1:14pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Emily96 Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4234 days ago 270 posts - 342 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Finnish, Latin | Message 71 of 76 28 December 2013 at 7:58pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I've gotten rather sidetracked over the past few months and didn't finish any of my challenges, but I am still
planning to join the next challenge! A lot of great ideas have been proposed in this thread. I agree with the may start, the star system, and that there should be different numbers for "movies" and "books" (since it takes longer to read). I'm not sure how i feel about changing "movies" to "listening"... i mostly watched TV and movies, but i do see how podcasts and audiobooks would work too... I guess i'm open to that! Mainly i think we need to keep things as simple as possible, but i realize that that may be hard to balance with each person's language mix and goals. I'm planning to sign up with a few languages with different goals, if possible. Also, i know that it's supposed to be a challenge for yourself and is not about beating other people, but some people enjoy the competition and find it motivating (myself included!). So i think it would be nice to have a way to compare yourself to other people if you want. The table we had was good, although not always clear... the proposition of comparing A1 with A1 and B2 with B2 is great idea, not sure how that would work exactly, but i'm sure surrealix could create something wonderful =) Congratulations to everyone who has succeeded in their challenges, and thanks to everyone who has been involved in organizing/running it! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5140 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 72 of 76 28 December 2013 at 8:22pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
You are most welcome. :-) I am thinking hard these days to figure out how we can keep it simple in 2014 yet try to include some of the various ways people would like to do this. I realise I will not be able to please everyone, but I want this to be as motivational as possible, so I keep thinking. I am also still listening to good ideas. :-) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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