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| DNB Bilingual Triglot Groupie Finland Joined 4697 days ago 47 posts - 80 votes  Speaks: Finnish*, Estonian*, English | Message 9 of 18 22 October 2011 at 10:01am | IP Logged | |||||
I don't want to be a nitpicker, but 日氣 means weather while a diary is 日記. Looks like you just made a mere typo though.
Not really, when you look up a Hanja in Korean, it will be accompanied with the meaning in Korean as well. So for 日 you could see definitions like 날, 해, 태양, 낮 (day, the Sun, daytime etc.), but the pronunciation will always be 일. Edited by DNB on 22 October 2011 at 10:06am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| DNB Bilingual Triglot Groupie Finland Joined 4697 days ago 47 posts - 80 votes Speaks: Finnish*, Estonian*, English | Message 10 of 18 22 October 2011 at 10:05am | IP Logged | |||||
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Edit: Doublepost Edited by DNB on 22 October 2011 at 10:06am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| 이희선 Groupie Australia Joined 4780 days ago 56 posts - 97 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian | Message 11 of 18 22 October 2011 at 11:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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Hi,
First to DNB, thanks for pointing out the error - it is not nitpicking, it was actually wrong. I was typing in all that Hanja with a pinyin keyboard (which i don't really know) because hanja input doesn't seem to work with firefox very well (?). I must've just selected wrong. To solongsekhu, DNB is right in the explanation. Probably just forget the terms "reading"; it sort of is a weird way to say what I was trying to say. I confuse myself with my own explanations sometimes. If you want to get into it, you can look up 음훈. Anyway, for the Darakwon books, I see how i was unclear. The sentences are only in Korean. Good sentences, but sucks to illustrate how to use the word if you don't understand any of the other words in the sentence. But it can still be useful and for your interests, I would recommend having both (or similar substitutes) as opposed to one or the other. The Handbook of Korean Vocabulary is really not as much like a dictionary as you would think. If you just want a quick reference for certain words or to get vocab lists or inspiration then a dictionary or the 2000 Words book would be better suited for that. Also, in the Handbook of Korean Vocabulary, the vocabulary goes from the basic to the rare. While words like "Inflammation" and "Desolate" are eventually useful, they are usually not high on a beginning learner's priority list. You may want a quick resource such as the 2000 words text which will give you clear entries on words you should know at the lower levels. For me, it was very satisfying to go through various sections and realize I had learned every word in that section. If 2000 is too small of a sample, then somebody also publishes a 6000 most common words dictionary that is quite compact, though I've not looked inside it to see what it was like. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| solongsekhu Newbie United States Joined 4660 days ago 17 posts - 17 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 12 of 18 22 October 2011 at 1:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Thanks both of you! That clarifies a lot.
So, the 2000 Essential book doesn't list hanja for each word, does it? Do you happen to have the name of the 6000 most common word book? Do you know if it's a similar format? Any idea how many words are in the Handbook of Korean Vocabulary? Thanks so much! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Odysseus Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4802 days ago 19 posts - 28 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin | Message 13 of 18 24 October 2011 at 2:45am | IP Logged | |||||
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Have you taken a look at hanja.naver.com? It's a fairly extensive online Hanja dictionary which is very easy to use. You can look up Hanja either by entering them with your keyboard, by typing it the appropriate Hangeul, or simply by drawing them into the search box. Individual entries contain readings, meanings, stroke order, related simplified forms in Japanese (일본식) or Simplified Chinese (중국식) -- the former of which you might find of value as a scholar of Japanese -- and lastly a plethora of Korean words which include the Hanja in question (all of which are also accompanied by Hangeul, so you won't use the wrong pronunciation in situations where a given Hanja has multiple potential readings). Finally, if you click on "한자검정 급수별" at the bottom of the page, you're taken to a Hanja listing arranged in the order of the official Hanja examinations.
Obviously if you intend to use this resource in your efforts to learn Korean you'll need a Korean-English dictionary as well, but if you click "영어/영어사전" right at the top of the page, you switch over from the site's Hanja dictionary to its Korean-English dictionary, so even that is covered. Check it out; even if you feel like it's overwhelming now, it will be useful later. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| solongsekhu Newbie United States Joined 4660 days ago 17 posts - 17 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 14 of 18 24 October 2011 at 11:55am | IP Logged | |||||
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No, I haven't checked that site out, but it sounds amazing! A lot of what I'm looking for, for sure. Thank you so much for explaining all that! I'm definitely going to use it.
That's great it even shows the related Japanese characters. I don't think I can call myself a Japanese scholar (though I like the sound of that!), but that will be helpful without a doubt, since I have a base of kanji knowledge. Thanks again, and good luck with your Korean studying! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4989 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 15 of 18 26 October 2011 at 10:58am | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes, naver provides hanja, but yahoo dictionary does not (in English-Korean version, Korean Korean dictionary has hanja).
DLI uses hanja, but it's very old, from the time of Korean war, and some words are outdated, mainly English loanwords. The word for Post Office is different (but they retain the old form in North Korea). If you know Japanese you will be able to trace the characters sometimes. Many words are the same, only reading is different. as an advice, I ca nsay that Japanese mei, is 명 in Korean, kei is 경 etc. of course not all words are the same, for example to Korean word from toorrow means come to Japan in Japanese. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| crafedog Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5629 days ago 166 posts - 337 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Korean, Tok Pisin, French | Message 16 of 18 05 November 2011 at 6:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Does anyone know of any Hanja dictionaries that are useful for showing Korean words that
contain the radical as well as the English translations of said words? For example, if I search for 음 (소리 meaning), I will get 음악 and 발음 etc pop up? I've searched through a few Hanja dictionaries but the ones I've found don't have a large amount of words to search or don't contain any English. Does anyone know of any good, preferably online, Hanja dictionaries? (the Miho Choo book is great btw [a friend's borrowing it at the mo sadly so I can't use it for now], the Hanja guide by Bruce Grant is also very useful and the 2000 essential words book is also great for shadowing) Edited by crafedog on 06 November 2011 at 7:33am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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