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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6267 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 9 of 28 16 September 2010 at 3:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
(the t-shirt says: Esperanto, oficiala lingvo de Antarktiko) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5178 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 10 of 28 16 September 2010 at 4:12pm | IP Logged | |||||
Does this mean Antarctica is the best place to look for Esperanto learning materials? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6267 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 11 of 28 16 September 2010 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
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For a serious answer, have a look at the round-up of online resources at http://www.learnlangs.com/blog/2009/11/08/for-those-interest ed-in-esperanto/ (my blog), or shop at http://www.esperanto-usa.org/retbutiko/index.php? (for North Americans) or http://katalogo.uea.org/ (for internationals). I also collected general resources for learning any language online, summarized in http://www.learnlangs.com/blog/2010/08/27/learning-languages -online-pt-1/ and http://www.learnlangs.com/blog/2010/09/03/learning-languages -online-part-2/ (remove spaces in all links) Edited by Sprachprofi on 16 September 2010 at 4:17pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Enriquee Triglot Groupie United States esperantofre.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5132 days ago 51 posts - 125 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Esperanto, English | Message 12 of 28 16 September 2010 at 9:39pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Envinyatar said:
>most of the people that post against Drugs have not >seen them working, This is not truth. There are many people unwillingly participating the consequences of drug abuse ... and they are qualified to post against Drugs: The policemen, ambulance drivers, tow truck drivers, that have to rescue people or vehicles, from the consequences of people driving under the influence of drugs (including legal drugs like alcohol). The medical professionals that have to take care of the people hurt in these accidents, and also take care of the drug addicts. The families affected by these accidents, and the families of the addicts. The people that have been robbed by addicts that needed money to buy their drugs. The education professionals that have seen the grades of their students go down after the students started drugs. The people of Mexico that have experienced thousands of deaths, as consequence of USA drug addicts buying their drugs ... and sending millions (billions?) of dollars to give more power to the drug lords. >Would you accept an opinion about War I believe that there aren't any people in this planet that have not suffered the consequences of war (in different degrees). 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Enriquee Triglot Groupie United States esperantofre.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5132 days ago 51 posts - 125 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Esperanto, English | Message 13 of 28 16 September 2010 at 10:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Sprachprofi wrote:
>the studies remain controversial even though there >are so many of them and no counter- studies, and it's >impossible to prove or disprove this effect with certainty. These studies are almost impossible to do. Most Esperanto speakers don't have the means to do it. Even if a group of Esperanto teachers succeeded to complete one of this studies, people who don't know Esperanto will never accept the results, which are coming from Esperanto speakers. People learning languages, teachers, or linguists, who would greatly benefit from learning Esperanto, refuse to make such experimentation. Still, a few of them, had learned Esperanto, and harvested the benefits ... Then they entered the realm of the people who know Esperanto ... no longer being trusted by the Esperanto non-speakers. Even that, there is a project going on in England with the participation of some public schools: Springboard... to Language-learning: http://www.springboard2languages.org/home. htm I don't need any studies. For long time, I was trying to learn English without any results. After learning Esperanto, I started to understand English. Most Esperanto speakers have heard many comments like this from many, many Esperanto speakers, who after learning Esperanto went on to learn other languages. We have experimented the advantages of learning Esperanto as an introduction to learning other languages. We don't need scientific proof. I suppose that most of the participants in this group know many languages. Maybe for them, learning Esperanto will show little advantage to the learning of more languages. This will be much more apparent to people that know only their native language, or maybe trying to learn another. Still ... I would like to see a member of this group who doesn't know Esperanto, spending 15 - 20 hours learning Esperanto, communicating in Esperanto with people from other countries, and then give her/his opinion about learning and knowing Esperanto. 20 hours should be enough to start communication. More time will be needed to practice and get fluency. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6500 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 14 of 28 17 September 2010 at 10:49am | IP Logged | |||||
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The comments on drugs and war were worth reading, but the thread should not develop into a discussion about these themes. So please refrain from further comments along that line.
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6236 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 15 of 28 27 September 2010 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Esperanto helps more with Slavic languages than people tend to assume. While there are a limited number of Slavic roots in Esperanto, quite a few bits of grammar are helpful. The preposition 'per' roughly corresponds in usage to the instrumental case, and when to use -n after prepositions is highly reminiscent of the choice between the locative and accusative (on the negative side, many fluent Esperanto speakers don't consistently do this). There's also the simple usage of -n for the object of a transitive verb - largely mirroring the accusative.
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| unilange Newbie United States unilange.weebly.com Joined 4882 days ago 4 posts - 2 votes Speaks: English* | Message 16 of 28 24 December 2010 at 10:01pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think that your idea seems just crazy enough to work. It makes sense, your first second language will definitely be
the hardest to learn, so why not pick an easy one (Esperanto and Unilange are about as easy as it gets). If you're truly interested, you should be able to master (or at least get fluent in) Esperanto in no time, compared to other Romance and Germanic Languages. So bottom line: Some people might think your idea is a bit crazy, but I would go with it if I were you. Hope this helps, FS 1 person has voted this message useful |
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