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jeff_lindqvist
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 Message 25 of 34
23 March 2009 at 5:30pm | IP Logged 
I found all of the "Accent formation" lectures very interesting, and I enjoyed the latest razor analogy a lot.

As for the problems with Youtube, I have not had any problems with your clips. In the rare cases where other ones have been "unavailable" (despite being viewed by online friends at the same time), I have simply reloaded the page with great success.

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 Message 26 of 34
24 March 2009 at 6:14pm | IP Logged 
Thank you for letting me know that, Mr. Lindquist; unfortunately, I myself am no longer able to view my own videos once they are posted - all I ever get is a black screen with the words "We're sorry, this video is no longer available."

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 Message 27 of 34
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Your video lectures are very good. Thanks.


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Thank you for the great videos
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 Message 29 of 34
07 March 2010 at 5:34pm | IP Logged 
Claiming that having a perfect or near-perfect accent is unnecessary or over-rated would
be the same as stating that writing a language like a native or in a natural way is over-
rated.

Just what exactly is the goal of the learner if learning to use the language -- to write
it and to speak it, that is -- like natives is not important?

If you are just learning as a hobby, that's fine, but if you are any serious about a
language, then you will care as much about writing it properly as you will about speaking
it properly. The fact that pronunciation is harder to grasp does not make it less
essential.

Edited by Arekkusu on 07 March 2010 at 5:35pm

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 Message 30 of 34
07 March 2010 at 6:07pm | IP Logged 
Arekkuse: pronunciation is well important, but it's not the same thing as an accent.

Anyway, how important is it to reach a 'native' accent? Having lived away from my native land and in various countries my whole life, I don't have a 'perfect' accent in any language, though I claim to speak 3 fluently.
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 Message 31 of 34
07 March 2010 at 6:38pm | IP Logged 
elvisrules wrote:
Having lived away from my native land and in various countries my
whole life, I don't have a 'perfect' accent in any language, though I claim to speak 3
fluently.


Which highlights one of the less mentioned causes of foreign accents: the lack of a
single, well-defined, local linguistic influence. Learning a language from people of
various accents, and hearing various accents on TV and on the radio makes it even harder
to acquire an accent natives will consider to be native-like.
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 Message 32 of 34
12 March 2010 at 12:37pm | IP Logged 
True enough, you can end up with a hotchpotch of different accents if you're none too careful. The brain just treats it all like a big Pic'n'Mix and selects whatever it likes and feels comforable with. That's why it's best to use these type of activities to enrich your listening skills and understanding, and practise speaking more consistently with the real locals in an immersion environment instead.

One thing I've noticed again and again is that if you speak with a strong accent in a target language, native speakers unaccustomed to that part of the country are far more likely to mistake you for a fluent native speaker. I remember chatting with a Swedish guy in Stockholm who had an amazing Mancunian accent, and another who lived for a year in Mississippi and sounded like the real deal. As I'm currently learning German, maybe I should start speaking K├Âlsch, or even Hessisch God forbid? :)


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