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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6235 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes  Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 9 of 13 09 February 2008 at 6:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yes - the point is, with Listening-Reading, my brain will already be trying to piece together a whole language from more-or-less natural comprehensible input. Hence, I wonder(ed) if significantly less-comprehensible input during the earliest part of this would impair the process. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| aru-aru Triglot Senior Member Latvia Joined 6253 days ago 244 posts - 331 votes Speaks: Latvian*, English, Russian | Message 10 of 13 09 February 2008 at 7:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I do a lot of passive listening lately. I use an audiobook in the target language of a novel that i've read in my native language before and remember well. It makes it rather easy for me to follow the story, even though i don't understand most of what is being said. I do it for Spanish (a lot of cognates), and furthest i've gotten with a language course in Spanish is Pimsleur lesson 20. I try to avoid reading anything at all, because i do not want to be influenced by what i think the words should sound, so i just go for lots and lots of audio. But still, with a lot of guessing it is possible to even learn some vocabulary through passive listening of this kind, so i say - go for it! Brain is a powerfull machine, it'll decode the message.
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| Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 6824 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 11 of 13 09 February 2008 at 9:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Spanish is written in a very consistent way. How could reading some Spanish, in conjunction with listening, harm your pronunciation? In my view it would give you a better idea of what the words are that you are listening to, and help you to get used to the new language.
If you are able to read on the computer from time to time you can look up words using a quick online dictionary. You could even block translate the odd paragraph, and soon you would understand a lot more, in my opinion. You would have some hooks to hang your understanding on. In my experience if I listen and do not understand, it is just noise. I catch the odd word, or think I do, have no idea what the meaning is and eventually stop concentrating. My experience is that to forge new pathways in the brain, the challenge has to be at a level that is neither too easy nor too difficult. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6235 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 12 of 13 10 February 2008 at 5:47am | IP Logged | |||||
Until you really internalize that different languages have different sounds corresponding to the same letters, it's easy to mangle what you hear towards what's written. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| atamagaii Senior Member Anguilla Joined 6002 days ago 181 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Apache* | Message 13 of 13 10 February 2008 at 6:00am | IP Logged | |||||
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Volte's right. Spanish v is not English v, for instance. There is no bilabial /v/ in English, and there is no English /v/ in Spanish.
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