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Serpent
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19 November 2015 at 8:40pm | IP Logged

Try to get in touch via Volte.
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CitizenJimserac
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19 November 2015 at 8:51pm | IP Logged

I did. He is kindly searching for a particular file I was looking for, kana.rar in the old www.stultorum.pochta.ru site
which is long gone.

If I can contact Siomotteikiru directly, it would be only to offer my profound thanks. I had tried out most of the
commercial programs like Rosetta Stone and Michael Thomas and Pimsleur and came to the same conclusion, that
while they were of some use, overall they were worthless (to me anyway) and that reading books that one was
interested in and hearing the language and grammar were all the essential ingredients while the commercial
packages were boring the heck out of you with goofy dialogues, situations, animations and other nonsense.

One last thing, for those of us who have hobbies involving Egyptology ..... does anyone know of any sound files for
actually hearing what spoken ancient Egyptian sounds like ? Spoken + text would be great. I haven't tried
searching yet but will report back if I find anything.

And, as my current research is in Aztec herbs, the same goes for Nahuatl, a language, which, I've heard, is
thankfully being restored to use by natives in Mexico, a language of profound cultural and ethno-botanical
importance.

Edited by CitizenJimserac on 19 November 2015 at 8:53pm
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Serpent
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Message 19 of 31

19 November 2015 at 10:01pm | IP Logged

I've only been in touch with siomotteikiru via Volte. She (not he) can probably send your message too :)

I know, this stuff is boring for me too. I wrote this wikia article about learning through native and "semi-native" materials.

For Ancient Egyptian, I only know of Assimil... emk is learning it.
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Марк
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21 November 2015 at 9:19pm | IP Logged

jeff_lindqvist wrote:

"SHCH" is pronounced something like "SHuhCHuh".

Well, I've never heard it be pronounced like that (except maybe in Nikita Chrushchev?).
It's a soft ш (and for anybody familiar with Mandarin pinyin, Щ matches x, while ш
matches sh - sort of!).

Хрущёв is pronounced as it should be [xru'ɕоf]
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CitizenJimserac
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Message 21 of 31

21 November 2015 at 10:03pm | IP Logged

Ya, throw out my brilliant explanation of "SHCH", that doesn't jive with reality !

семь бед один ответ !!

J.

Edited by CitizenJimserac on 21 November 2015 at 10:04pm
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jeff_lindqvist
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23 November 2015 at 1:02am | IP Logged

Thanks, Марк! I suspected there was something funny with the average Swede's idea of how to pronounce his name.
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lsilvaj
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02 December 2015 at 4:55pm | IP Logged

Expugnator wrote:

Vocabulary will be the most difficult issue with Russian. The alphabet is a walk in the park. Try the site Langintro for a start.

I definitely recommend you a "warm-up" resource prior to Assimil. Having been through all the Assimil Russian available, I have to say in all of them the learning curve is too steep. I suggest you Méthode 90 which has even shorter lessons AND/OR Langues pour tous - Russe. No need to bother with English textbooks unless you already own them. They try to teach too much at once while explaining overall grammar to English speakers.

Methode 90 learning curve is steeper than any Assimil Russian course.

For example, by lesson 13 you are supposed to know by heart all the endings for adjectives, demonstratives and possessives in the locative and genitive cases.

Explanations are plainly technical and they use only italics in the grammar section, which in cyrilic alphabet just adds more confusion (and you'll have to look somewhere else to understand it, in the book there's no reference whatsoever).

I think it is a good course, but it's far from easy.
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Expugnator
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02 December 2015 at 5:27pm | IP Logged

Perhaps the grammar curve is, but the vocabulary one certainly isn't. And you can get grammar from other resources. It was the lack of good resources for learning vocabulary in a friendly way that delayed my Russian learning.

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