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| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5043 days ago 2237 posts - 6731 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 9 of 14 27 September 2015 at 2:45pm | IP Logged |
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Enrico, as you know, all of the Romance languages are different, just like the slavic languages are different. Spanish will help with Italian, but it is not, I repeat- NOT, Italian. With Spanish, you can get by with basic communication, provided that your interlocutor is patient. Portuguese (though Portugal is not a Mediterranean country) is close enough that if your Spanish is good, you can get by with basic communication, once again, provided that your interlocutor is patient- you may not understand the responses though. I've never used Spanish for communication with Portuguese-speakers because I speak Portuguese, but I have witnessed native speakers of either language communicating with each other, more or less. I, myself have managed to get by with Spanish with Italian-speakers but I also have knowledge of two other Romance languages and can fill in the blanks. Your mileage may vary.
So, people are saying "Spanish" because it is obviously good for Spain and it will help in Portugal and Italy but not so much in French. Spanish is by no means a lingua franca but it has a closer relationship with Italian and Portuguese than French has with Portuguese. French has a closer relationship with Italian but not so close with Spanish and Portuguese. There is no one, single, Romance language you can learn that will take you all across the Mediterranean from Rome to Lisbon. French is the Romance language language I find to be least like the others in terms of pronunciation. Without French, in France, Spanish won't serve you very well except perhaps some for reading. If you seriously just want to travel, English is the language that will serve you best in all of these countries. Working on improving your spoken English would probably be the best use of your time, along with basic phrasebook vocabulary and phrases for daily needs in the other languages. If you want to blend in with local culture, learn Spanish, French, Italian and Portuguese, and wait a few years. 6 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Luso Hexaglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 5842 days ago 819 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, EnglishC2, GermanB1, Italian, Spanish Studies: Sanskrit, Arabic (classical) | Message 10 of 14 27 September 2015 at 8:58pm | IP Logged |
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It depends on when you want to travel:
201.5 CE/AD: Latin 2015 CE/AD: English In both moments, some of the local tribes won't understand you, but they are, for the most part, friendly. 8 persons have voted this message useful | |
| vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6741 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese | Message 11 of 14 16 October 2015 at 12:28pm | IP Logged |
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You have to bring with you an "English Interlingua Dictionary"
http://www.interlingua.com/an/ceid and learn a little bit of "Interlingua Grammar" http://hg8lhs.ham.hu/languages/interlingua/Interlingua_Gramm ar.pdf Interlingua is a constructed languaged based on Romance languages In Spain Portugal and Italy almost everybody will understand you Also in France many people will understand you, with more difficulty. In Croatia, Montenegro and Greece many people understand English and Italian. In Albania Italian is widespread. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Mad Max Tetraglot Groupie Spain Joined 4832 days ago 79 posts - 146 votes Speaks: Spanish*, French, English, Russian Studies: Arabic (classical) | Message 12 of 14 10 November 2015 at 6:10pm | IP Logged |
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Well, My vote is for Spanish because Spanish is relatevely easy for Portuguese speakers
and Italian speakers. Spain is between Portugal and Italy, geographycally. At the same time, if a Portuguese only knows Portuguese and some English is easier Spanish language than French or Italian. I think that it is the same for an Italian, at least phonetically. When I was in Portugal, I spoke in Spanish and the Portuguese people in their own language and we could understand each other. The same in Italy. Italian is a little less similar. So, sometimes I spoke Spanglish (Spanish with some English words). It was enough to understand each other. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6378 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 13 of 14 10 November 2015 at 11:08pm | IP Logged |
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If you're literally going to travel along the coast, then Italy has the longest coastline out of these ;)
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| reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6228 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes Studies: German | Message 14 of 14 08 January 2016 at 11:42pm | IP Logged |
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To me, Czech, as we were in a car with a Czech couple on a similar trip.
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