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SladeWilson
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15 June 2015 at 11:29am | IP Logged 
Saluton!

Mi volas iri al Japanio.

Mi volas iros al Japanio.

Mi ne scias kiu unu estas korekta.

Dankon,

SladeWilson
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basica
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15 June 2015 at 12:04pm | IP Logged 
1. I want to go to Japan

2. I want to will go to Japan

tio estas angla lingvo, pensas ke vi scios nun kio estas pravo.
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jeff_lindqvist
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15 June 2015 at 5:33pm | IP Logged 
Fakte, ĉi tio eraro estas komuna, sed nekomprenebla. En multaj lingvoj, oni ĉiam uzas la infinitivon direkte post modalaj/helpaj verboj (sendepende de verbotempo), neniam konjugacion. Ne en la anglan (neniam "want to [goes/went/going/gone]"), ne en la francan, la hispanan, la Germanan, la svedan k.t.p.

Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 16 June 2015 at 12:47am

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rapp
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15 June 2015 at 6:06pm | IP Logged 
I think the rule is that when you have multiple verbs in a row, only the first is conjugated. The rest are in the infinitive form. So an exaggerated example:

Mi volas memori komenci prepari iri al Japanio.
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15 June 2015 at 10:57pm | IP Logged 
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
Fakte, ĉi tio eraro estas komuna, sed nekomprenebla. En multaj lingvoj, oni ĉiam uzas la infinitivon direkte post modalaj/helpaj verboj (sendepende de verbotempo), neniam konjugacion. Ne en la anglan (neniam "want to [goes/went/going/gone]"), ne en la francan, la hispanan, la Germanan, la svedan k.t.p.

Maybe it's influenced by structures like "I want it done"? Also especially English native speakers don't analyze what they say. This might be a form of hypercorrection.
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16 June 2015 at 12:45am | IP Logged 
That's possible, but I've heard non-native English speakers make the same mistake, despite that their own native language also uses infinitive. OK, language learning isn't always logical nor predictable.


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