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 Message 81 of 464
19 January 2014 at 7:58am | IP Logged 
Via Diva wrote:
Cristianoo wrote:
это мое представление:
Меня зовут Cristiano. Я живу в Бразилии и учусь русскому языку

Кристиано in Cyrillic, I think.
It kinda depends on how you pronounce it in the original. A certain footballer is normally written as Криштиану in Russian. Кристьяно is another possible spelling. But if you ever need to get any sort of official papers, write it as you are told to, of course.
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 Message 82 of 464
19 January 2014 at 8:18am | IP Logged 
Cristianoo wrote:


@Via Diva: Thanks! If you don't mind, could you explain something? I didn't understand
when should I use учиться or изучать or учать.

изучать is the perfective form?

I understood that учиться is reflexive, but when I want to say that I study something,
should I use я учусь <something> or should I use the verb учать?

There is no verb учать, only учить. Учить can mean both to learn and to teach. To learn
something is учить + acc. (учить язык), to teach something to someone is учить кого-то
(acc.) чему-то (dat.) (учить мальчика языку - to teach the language to the boy).
Учиться (to study) has a broader meaning - to study in general. If we want to say to
study something, we use the dative case: учиться языку (but it is not very often used
with nouns, more with infinitives учиться выживать - to learn how to survive).
Изучать (+acc.) is to study something. Изучать язык.
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fabriciocarraro
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 Message 83 of 464
19 January 2014 at 4:37pm | IP Logged 
Марк wrote:
Учиться (to study) has a broader meaning - to study in general. If we want to say to study something, we use the dative case: учиться языку (but it is not very often used with nouns, more with infinitives учиться выживать - to learn how to survive).


Also, Учиться is used when you explain WHERE you study whatever it is that you study, like "Я учусь в университете", right?
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Via Diva
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 Message 84 of 464
19 January 2014 at 4:46pm | IP Logged 
fabriciocarraro, yeah, but you can avoid it by saying what you study first: Я учу русский язык в университете.
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 Message 85 of 464
20 January 2014 at 4:26am | IP Logged 
@Via Diva - Great explanation! That's what I was looking for. Thanks. Yes, I wrote it
wrong. I meant "учить". It's because i'm still using google translator to type (they
have a virtual keyboard. I type things in cyrillic there and ctrl+c ctrl+v here), I
should buy a russian keyboard.

I don't use my computer to produce text yet, only to read, because I believe that if
you write with your own hand instead of typing, things are going to glue faster in your
mind. So typing system here is still very precarious.

@ Марк - Got it. Great explanation aswell. These formulas are very useful!, thanks.
I'll write then down here as references

Edit: Text Formatting

Edited by Cristianoo on 20 January 2014 at 4:29am

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 Message 86 of 464
21 January 2014 at 11:28am | IP Logged 
An update
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 Message 87 of 464
21 January 2014 at 7:48pm | IP Logged 
A start, then :)
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 Message 88 of 464
22 January 2014 at 9:28am | IP Logged 
An update

I already feel better changing courses. I switched to Assimil from the 1950s, and all I want as a goal is to finish it. That's all. I prefer this as a goal to, say, I want to reach A2 or B1 etc.

By the way, after assimil russian (1950s), which level do you reach? :)


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