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Danac
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Denmark
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Speaks: Danish*, English
Studies: German, Serbo-Croatian, French, Russian, Esperanto

 
 Message 1 of 13
17 December 2012 at 8:22pm | IP Logged 
Despite having been a member for quite some time, I've never really gotten around to making a log until
now. As of recently, however, I've joined some of the teams for next year's TAC, namely the ones that
were of some kind of relevance to me and my language aspirations.

BCMS Team
CZ/SK Team
*jäŋe/*ledús

I'll be giving a short presentation of the languages I know, and what I expect to do in these languages
in the foreseeable future.

ENGLISH (hard to say, C1-C2?): I don't have any plans to study English as such, although I think we all
know that learning a language never really stops, there's always more to learn. Of course, I'll be
watching series and reading stuff on the internet, and using materials to and from English all the time
(dictionaries, textbooks, some literature).

GERMAN (depends on the skill, B1-B2): An old accomplice, and a language I rather like. I probably won't
be doing a lot, but if I ever feel like it, I might one day start writing a bit in it just to practise.
I also foresee using it as a travel language from time to time, since most people mistake me for a
German. Apart from that, I may be reading a bit in German (I have a few books lying around) and
listening to podcasts (from dradio.de). overall not a high priority.

SPANISH (depends on the skill, anywhere between A1-B1): A language I did while in school some years
ago, although I've since let it slip. I feel comfortable enough in some parts of the grammar, but
actually using the language is something else. I could see myself going to Spain, so there may be some
possibilities for using it. Apart from that, it's pretty much on the back burner. If anything, I'll be
looking into some textbooks and listening to some podcasts, but probably not a lot.

BCMS (B1-B2): This is a language that I'm very passionate about, to the extent of having studied it for
a couple of years, but not currently (TMI from here on). Although I'm not entirely sure, I probably
started at some point in '08 or thereabouts, and just kept going.
I know a bunch of native speakers, and have one good friend from Bosnia, plus I'm always interested in
travelling the countries in which the language is spoken, so that's what keeps me going.
I'm more or less on the level just short of advanced, being able to read through a newspaper article
without missing a lot, but not quite good enough for original language fiction. Speaking is not a great
problem, but listening and understanding can sometimes be a little more sketchy, but that's nothing
uncommon, I think.

I'm slowly beginning to read some poetry in the language, mostly because it lends itself better to
thorough inspection than novels etc., and I'll be doing more of this.
Then there's listening to news podcasts, watching the occasional movie, watching English language
movies and series with subtitles, and listening to lots of music from the area (lots of YUGO stuff,
rock, punk and new wave, and of course my great passion, Bosnian Sevdalinka). Occasionally I'll break
out of my comfort zone and find a gathering of Bosnians somewhere in my immediate vicinity. (In or
around Randers, Denmark)
I also recently purchased the 9000 word Serbian vocabulary book from Tpbooks.com, so I'll be trying to
get through that over time, and possibly adding extra words as I come across them. I'm not exactly sure
how or where to do it, but I'll start writing a bit in the language somewhere, either in a place like
lang8 or here, in this very log. I'll see what happens.

HUNGARIAN (very basic, probably still A1): A more recently addition to my collection, I believe the
first thing I did was go through the 30 lessons of Pimsleur Hungarian about a year ago, ie. Dec. '11.
Since then I've been doing it on-off with some breaks, probably due to the difficulty of the language,
especially the vocabulary. I went through Colloquial Hungarian in one swift pull, but I need to do some
more solid work involving drills or basic writing to really solidify what I know.
As with a lot of languages, what draws me to Hungarian is the possible use of the language while
travelling, and also to better understand the lyrics of Hungarian folk music.
In case anyone was wondering, there's a huge amount of well-played Hungarian folk music available, so I
can only implore people to discover it post-haste.

My goal is to be able to write and speak the language at a usable level, perhaps somewhere around B1,
ako Bog da.

SLOVAK (A1-A2, plus a lot of Slavic transparency): Almost transparent from the start with an
intermediate knowledge of another Slavic language, Slovak has been a lot easier to get into than eg.
Hungarian. I started it up roughly one year ago with the short book Basic Slovak, and have since gone
through Colloquial Slovak. I'm currently working on Krizom Krazom A1, which I'm finding quite easy, as
could be expected. I'll be done with it soon, and I'm contemplating getting the 2 other books in the
series, since I've liked the dialogues in the first one. Apart from that, I have a couple of Russian
books for Slovak (courtesy of the internet, 'nuff said), and a bunch of podcasts to listen to, plus
movies, music, and subtitles for English language series.
Travelling is also on the table, naturally.

As with Hungarian, I need to step it up a bit and start using the language more actively, both in
writing and orally. I might try to find a Slovak person for a language exchange, but let's see how
things work out.

Hmm, this initial post is slowly reaching "too long, didn't read"-length, so I'll just finally add that
I'm also doing a bit of Albanian, Esperanto and Slovenian, so expect them to pop up as well.
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Danac
Diglot
Senior Member
Denmark
Joined 5130 days ago

162 posts - 257 votes 
Speaks: Danish*, English
Studies: German, Serbo-Croatian, French, Russian, Esperanto

 
 Message 2 of 13
17 December 2012 at 8:29pm | IP Logged 
SUBTITLES

Croatian/Serbian/Macedonian Subtitles for Series
Here

Subtitles for Movies and Series in ~50 Languages
Here

TV & RADIO

STV Link The digital archive of the
Slovakian public broadcaster.

HRT Link1
=119&cHash=1">Link 2
Link 3
The first link is for downloading podcasts from the Croatian HRT's radio, and the
second one is for their digital TV archive. The third is for a direct stream of HRT1.

RTV SLO Link The public broadcaster in Slovenia.

RTS Link The public broadcaster of
Serbia. This link will take you to their digital archive, full of goodies.

RTV Link (Radio Televizija Vojvodine) features programs
mainly in Serbian, but also plenty of programs in other languages on their second
channel. The list would be something like this: Hungarian, Slovak, Romanian, Pannonian
Rusyn, Ukrainian, (Bunjevac) Croatian, Macedonian, Romani. Both channels can be
streamed live with the occasional exception for foreign programs.

Gruvanje Link
Watch
A program about the rock scene in Serbia, featuring rock and metal music.

FEATURED SONGS
By pass - Nedelja
Link
Pero Defformero - Tu Nema Ljubavi
Link
Zdob și Zdub - Moldovenii s-au născut
Link
HMBC "Vo Mello bis ge Schoppornou"
Link
Joan Manuel Serrat - El Drapaire
Link

Edited by Danac on 03 January 2013 at 6:28am

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Rosen93
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Denmark
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34 posts - 42 votes
Speaks: Danish*, English
Studies: Mandarin

 
 Message 3 of 13
17 December 2012 at 10:20pm | IP Logged 
Every time I see another member from Denmark, I get so excited. :)
Very cool group of languages, you got there. As to everybody else I wish you good luck with studies. :)


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JohannaNYC
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Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian
Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian)

 
 Message 4 of 13
19 December 2012 at 7:42pm | IP Logged 
Danac wrote:
SUBTITLES

Croatian/Serbian/Macedonian Subtitles for Series
Here

Subtitles for Movies and Series in ~50 Languages
Here


Hvala vam puno!! You totally made my day. So glad we're on the same team :)
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Danac
Diglot
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Denmark
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Speaks: Danish*, English
Studies: German, Serbo-Croatian, French, Russian, Esperanto

 
 Message 5 of 13
19 December 2012 at 9:56pm | IP Logged 
JohannaNYC wrote:
Danac wrote:
SUBTITLES

Croatian/Serbian/Macedonian Subtitles for Series
Here

Subtitles for Movies and Series in ~50 Languages
Here


Hvala vam puno!! You totally made my day. So glad we're on the same team :)


Nema na čemu! (ie. you're welcome). It's actually one of my preferred things to do:
Find a series I like, and watch it with foreign subtitles. Although one might possibly
spend time studying more efficiently in other ways, it's good for a more laid back
approach to language learning/avoiding burnout. :)

Also, keep an eye out for other links/materials I'll be posting in that same message.

S poštovanjem, Peter
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Danac
Diglot
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Denmark
Joined 5130 days ago

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Speaks: Danish*, English
Studies: German, Serbo-Croatian, French, Russian, Esperanto

 
 Message 6 of 13
20 December 2012 at 1:40am | IP Logged 
I just thought I'd make a little entry on what I'm doing currently in relation to foreign
languages.

Depending on the language, I'm using different materials: Anki, textbooks, series with subtitles,
podcasts, and some original stuff.

Today I found myself watching a great program on RTV (Radio Televizija Vojvodine) called "Gruvanje"
Link. I can't describe it better than they do themselves
in the beginning of each program:

Ovaj program ne preporučujemo osobama koje ne vole Rock'n'Roll.
We don't recommend this program for people who don't like Rock'n'Roll.

And that's it. It's all about rock from Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia, although with the greatest
focus on the domestic scene, understandably. You basically get a bit of everything, from the newest
single by Bajaga to more metalized sounds. The scene seems to be alive and kicking, and I'd surely
recommend the program to people who need a bit of rock (and a bit of foreign language) in their
diet.

To watch a bunch of the programs, hit "Odloženo" (=postponed, delayed) on the site my link leeds
to.

I'll be sharing a link to a couple of songs I liked:

By pass - Nedelja Link
In the nu-metal vein, it occasionally sounds a bit like (a poor man's) Tool. Still decent, though.

Pero Defformero - Tu Nema Ljubavi Link
A rather unceremonial mixture of some light metal, mixed with the singing style of Serbian Turbo-
Folk, ululations and all. Perhaps it's more of a joke than anything else, but in that case, perhaps
I'm just a "Seljak" (=peasant).

Uživajte, drugovi i drugarice!
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hribecek
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Speaks: English*, Czech, Spanish
Studies: Italian, Polish, Slovak, Hungarian, Toki Pona, Russian

 
 Message 7 of 13
21 December 2012 at 12:10pm | IP Logged 
Thanks for all the useful links.

We're in 2 teams together and share 3 foreign languages - Slovak(mainly passively),
Hungarian and Spanish so your log will be a very interesting one for me.

Good luck teammate x 2!


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Danac
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Senior Member
Denmark
Joined 5130 days ago

162 posts - 257 votes 
Speaks: Danish*, English
Studies: German, Serbo-Croatian, French, Russian, Esperanto

 
 Message 8 of 13
03 January 2013 at 6:11am | IP Logged 
Zdravo svima, I thought I'd just give a short update.

Sadly, the holidays have been rather lean in terms of language study in the Danac
house, and the most I've been doing is watching Supernatural with subtitles. I could
probably have
watched something else, but Supernatural was one of not many series that had subtitles
available in Slovak, so that was the linchpin. :)

What I have been doing, however, is revisiting an old graded reader for Spanish that
was a part of some of my earliest Spanish classes (about 10 years ago), namely a crime
story
called "El hombre que veía demasiado". It's quite short, and all in all, there's
probably an
hour's worth of reading in it, but it's been fun so far, so I may just get some more of
these
readers for Spanish.

I also watched a program on HRT (Alpe Dunav Jadran) through their digital archives, and
I'll be adding that link as well as some other goodies to my list of links.

As an end note, I thought I'd add a couple of songs I've been enjoying lately. None of
them actually tie in directly with any language plans I have, (they're in Romanian,
Catalan
and a kind of Alemannic) I just liked them. :)

Zdob și Zdub - Moldovenii s-au născut
Link

HMBC "Vo Mello bis ge Schoppornou"
Link

Joan Manuel Serrat - El Drapaire
Link

Edited by Danac on 03 January 2013 at 6:14am



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