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Vigmo
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 Message 1 of 11
28 October 2012 at 1:53pm | IP Logged 
I want to study in swedish at a finnish university. I am norwegian so speak and write
that fluently, but have almost never written or said anything in swedish. About how much
time would I need to become good enough in swedish, and how should I go about learning
it?

I can allready understand swedish(might loose some words here and there)
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 Message 2 of 11
29 October 2012 at 1:54pm | IP Logged 
The biggest problem would be the written assignments, especially in the "Arts" field (like Literature). Have you decided yet what exactly you want to study? It would be a good idea to read several books that contain the relevant vocabulary (which for some spheres could also be fiction e.g. the Da Vinci Code:)) As it's so closely related to your native language, you can start with that straight away... I'd even say you SHOULD read from the beginning, no matter what other things you do or don't do. Otherwise, there have been some recs recently, books like "Swedish for Norwegians" etc, but I can't find that forum post now.

You understand a lot of popular media but try to find some lectures/documentaries. How well do you understand them?

Also, your profile says you're studying Finnish, not Swedish. If you're more interested in Finnish, I think it's better to just study in English, in a Finnish-speaking region. You'll have plenty of opportunities to improve your Finnish this way :)

And about interacting with people: bear in mind that Swedish speakers in Finland have far less exposure to Norwegian (if any) than Swedish speakers in Sweden. They also have to be quite fluent in Finnish even if they prefer to use Swedish (and btw they're often better than Finnish native speakers at helping learners;))). Although I think interacting with fellow students won't be a problem regardless of the language in which you study.
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 Message 3 of 11
29 October 2012 at 3:04pm | IP Logged 
Also Fennoswedes speak with their own accent and/or dialect, and it's not exactly the
same as many of the Swedish accents/dialects/etc.
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29 October 2012 at 8:24pm | IP Logged 
Most universities accept written assignments in English, more so, a lot of institutions only want them in English. As
long as you're not writing an essay in the subject Swedish, no one will care that much. If you study Nordiska språk,
you will probably be allowed to write in Norwegian. If you study anything else, in English or in Norwegiswedish, that
is Swedish with some norwegianisms in: the content and not the language is most often important and if you use an
odd word choice or expression it won't really matter.
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Vigmo
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 Message 5 of 11
31 October 2012 at 11:31pm | IP Logged 
First of all, thank you for good answers.

My study plans range over many years. Since I am quite young still my plan is to study
finnish at Åbo Akademi(swedish speaking university in Finland) and later study medicine
at the university of Helsinki. There the lectures will be 50/50 swedish and finnish.(or
100% finnish if I decide that's better).

I tried some lectures today and I can follow without any problems. Will mail Åbo
Akademi and ask how it is with norwegian or English and assignments.

This summer I was at a finnish wedding where I got to speak with some Fennoswedes. They
didn't understand my norwegian, but got my swedish attempts.

I now have until next august to prepare for whatever study I want. And now I'm thinking
studying finnish and swedish 50/50 and stay at Åbo for long enough to feel comfortable
to take a grade in mostly/fully finnish.

My reason to do this is because of finnish girlfriend, love for Finland, love for
languages and difficulty to start medice in norway!:D

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Vigmo
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31 October 2012 at 11:33pm | IP Logged 
And will go get some swedish books tomorrow. Will be weird to read in swedish, but also
exciting
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 Message 7 of 11
01 November 2012 at 2:14am | IP Logged 
Comprehension won't be a problem for you, but there are little things that can get in
the way with production. I'd start by breezing through a grammar book to find out the
few things that are different from Norwegian, then take a moment to memorize the
inflection tables, and possibly look up a list of untransparent words and false
friends. This shouldn't take very long. A book targeted to Norwegians might have all of
the aforementioned in a compact form, so see if you can find one of those. I know
there's a book called Norsk som nabospråk, meant for Swedes learning Norwegian, which
might also suit your needs.

Anyhow, with those under your belt I suspect you'll find it easier to home in on the
finer details as you read and listen. If production remains a problem, get a grammar
exercise book and/or start writing on Lang-8. Anything that forces you to form your own
sentences in Swedish and gives you feedback, basically.

Are you looking to learn finlandssvenska (the accent), by the way? If so, you should be
listening to it as much as possible. I don't think there are that many audio books
available in finlandssvenska, so look into podcasts. YLE Arenan is a good place to
start.
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 Message 8 of 11
02 November 2012 at 4:54am | IP Logged 
aw, Finnish and medicine? <3 I really love both.

but... you're aware that studying medicine takes LONG? And also, most people taking a Finnish course in Swedish have been learning it all their lives, or at least throughout school. This would be like studying English philology in Norway.

TBH, it would probably be easier to study medicine first, in English or Swedish. At most Finnish-dominated places you'll also be able to take as many Finnish for foreigners classes as you want (though they're not necessary :P), although I'm not sure that's the case with Åbo Academi.


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