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 emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5541 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes  Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 513 of 1317 07 April 2013 at 6:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
I'm glad you liked it! You'll be happy to know that there are two more series in the same story: Bételgeuse (5 books) and Antarès (4 books). And there seem to be several other series by the same authors. Here are some more French science fiction recommendations: - L'incal, BD, 6 books. This was the BD that indirectly inspired the movie The Fifth Element. Much like that film, it has a certain ridiculous "over the top" quality that you're either going to love or hate. It's currently being republished as three volumes each containing two books. - Ab Irato, BD, unfinished, 2 books so far. This is a fun one from Quebec, with excellent art and solid storying-telling. Too bad it's not finished yet. - Anything by Jules Verne. These classics are still lots of fun today, and they're all available as free ebooks. So if you have access to an ebook reader with a popup dictionary, they're worth a look. - Ulysse 31, DVD. This animated series was really popular in the early 80s among French kids, and for very good reasons. It was made by a joint French/Japanese team, and it combines the story of Ulysses with really cool spaceships. - Captain Flam, DVD. Another 80s TV classic (also in Germany, I think?). I've heard references to this series in everything from rap songs to the French version of Angel. Worth checking out an episode or two to see if you like it. - Les Fourmis by Bernard Werber, book. Werber is one of the most famous science fiction authors in France today. Frankly, a lot of his work feels fairly cliché, as if he were borrowing stories from English-language pulp magazines in the 1940s. But Les Fourmis has a certain original quality that really makes it stand out. (I've only read the first half, and will get around to finishing it at some point.) - Le vieil homme et la guerre by John Scalzi, book (translated from English). This is a quick, fun read in English, and the French translation is quite good. As a bonus, you can learn how to swear like a drill sergeant. In general, quite a few English classics have been translated into French, and the translations from L'Atalante tend to be quite good. Anyway, I hope that's enough to give you one or two good ideas!
My experience is a little bit unusual, because during the two years that I spent at A2 (not really studying), I heard about 1000 hours of French spoken to toddlers. This gave me very solid—but extremely narrow—B1 passive listening skills. Basically, I could understand almost 100% of what my wife said to the kids, but I still couldn't understand French radio at all (except for a few fragments), and I could only sort-of follow conversations between my wife and her family. Last spring, I spent a lot of time reading Le Monde online and listening to French news radio on the Internet. This was pretty inefficient, but it boosted me to partial comprehension of news radio, because I was already familiar with the major stories of the day. The real breakthrough was Buffy and these transcripts. I went through the first four episodes intensively (watching multiple times while reading along) and I finished the season extensively (no subs, occasionally using rewind). By the end of the season, I could watch the episodes for fun and generally follow 80+% of the plot. By the end of the fifth season (and half a season of Angel), there were episodes where I understood 90% of the dialogue without any problems. After that, I parked myself in front of VoilaTV and spent maybe 15 hours channel surfing and watching all kinds of strange stuff. At the same time, I was nearing maybe 4000 or 5000 pages of French read. Sometime around then, my listening comprehension started to "broaden out"—I could enjoy more and more shows with only modest warmup. For example, it only took me about 3 hours to reach 90+% comprehension of Ulysse 31. And these days, I can even enjoy Harry Potter audiobooks in the car. I still have huge gaps in my listening skills, but I'm over the hump. Give me a TV, or a stack of DVDs with no subs, and I can find something and understand most of it within a half hour or so. For certain full-speed native materials, I still sometimes need to pay attention for 5 minutes before I fully "tune in". The biggest obstacles are French films and a few series like Engrenages that involve subtle plots, tons of actors, and lots of fast, slangy speech. I could probably tune into Engrenages, but I suspect it would take the better part of a season and some intensive work. For each of my skills in French, there has been a tipping point where I went from thinking, "Will I ever be able to do this? Is it even possible?" to thinking, "I can obviously get as good as I want to get—provided that I actually put in the hours." 5 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 5139 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 514 of 1317 08 April 2013 at 8:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Thanks a lot for those many recommendations. I'll check them out once I'm finished with Bételgeuse and Antarès :))
Ah, and Captain Flam doesn't ring a bell, even though I'm German. I grew up without a TV at home, though, so I just simply might have missed it. But there was a cool book series I loved as a teenager: Mark Brandis - Weltraumpartisanen. We even played Mark Brandis stories on the attic of a friend of mine... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5565 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 515 of 1317 11 April 2013 at 7:20am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm interested in watching replays of French series and dramas online, but am coming up against the same brick wall every time I find an interesting series...
I'm talking about that belligerent cyber-bouncer who heartlessly lures language learners in with the promise of exciting free drama, all for the price of a 30-second advert or two, but then reneges on the deal as you try to enter the club. I think I've lost count now of the number of times he's barricaded my way to a fun series with ape-like arms and that all-too-dreaded empty apology: "sorry, this video is not available from your country". I wonder if you could point me in the right direction and suggest some good websites where I can watch French series for free from the US? Edited by Teango on 11 April 2013 at 7:20am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
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