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| numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6595 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes  Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 25 of 28 13 January 2012 at 1:25pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Most of the time I don't take it too seriously, because it's such a subjective statement. I have seen how my perception of what's easy and hard in languages has changed dramatically in only a couple of years, so I don't expect anyone to give me an assessment that would be appropriate to where I happen to be right now in my exploration of languages. There may be aspects of a particular language that are objectively easier or harder than other aspects, but even that I think is less objective than we like to think. It's hard to say what's really going to cause me problems the day that I do begin to study language X. In high school I thought French grammar was so hard whereas the phonology was fascinating but quite easy in comparison. Today I understand French grammar very easily because of all the grammar study I did in Italian, whereas the phonology is holding me back as I haven't advanced my knowledge in this area much since high school. Edited by numerodix on 13 January 2012 at 1:26pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| SueK Groupie United States Joined 4563 days ago 77 posts - 133 votes Studies: Mandarin | Message 26 of 28 13 January 2012 at 3:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
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It makes no difference. I'm told Mandarin is hard, but am consistantly told it's hard because of the tones. I don't find the tones difficult at all. English doesn't sound right if you don't certain tones and emphasis in words. Personally, I think hipopatomous has 3 tones in it. Then we overlay sentence tones over our words!Wow, learn that correctly! Mandarin simply has stricter rules around correct pronunciation of individual words. I'd still want to pronounce correctly, so it makes no differnce to me.
The grammer seems relatively simple, so I'm finding Mandarin overall to be easy. Relatively, of course. I won't be fluent tomorrow, but haven't encountered anything to scare me off either! Spanish scares me. I know, that's one of those 'easy' ones, but I had a bad teacher once who made me nervous of my ability to conjugate verbs and I struggle to imagine learning a gender for every noun! Nope, I'll stick with Mandarin, much easier! 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5227 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean | Message 27 of 28 13 January 2012 at 4:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
This topic is about others judging languages as being easy, and it was about whether or not any given language can truly be "easy". I'm trying hard to figure out how that doesn't pertain.
I've heard people call a lot of languages easy, but Mandarin has never been one of them. Clearly these elusive "Chinese-is-so-easy!" people amongst the general populace must have been eluding me all these years. SueK doesn't seem to have encountered many of them either... Edited by nway on 13 January 2012 at 4:27pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5227 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean | Message 28 of 28 14 January 2012 at 5:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
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