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| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6449 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 9 of 17 27 October 2011 at 2:09pm | IP Logged | |||||
Course books and annotated and edited versions of Old English have had their spelling normalised. This is not the case with the original documents where the spelling were highly irregular. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Remster Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4595 days ago 120 posts - 134 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: German, French | Message 10 of 17 28 October 2011 at 12:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I guess one could always find a reason to claim otherwise.
To stay on the safe side, it's just my opinion that grammar wise the language is simplified. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4846 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 11 of 17 28 October 2011 at 12:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
How many forms does a modern verb have in comparison with an Old English one? Articles appeared, Continious tenses, Perfect tenses, Perfect Continious, many other constructions. Modal verbs appeared, sentences became more complex. Passive voice developed and became hard to grasp (I was given an apple. It sank = it was sunk). Word order became stricter. Edited by Марк on 28 October 2011 at 12:59pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Mauritz Octoglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 4858 days ago 223 posts - 325 votes Speaks: Swedish*, EnglishC2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, Esperanto, French Studies: Old English, Yiddish, Arabic (Written), Mandarin, Korean, Portuguese, Welsh, Icelandic, Afrikaans | Message 12 of 17 28 October 2011 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | |||||
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OK then, let's solve this by simply stating that the morphology became simplified, which is what I think Remster is
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| Deerhound Triglot Newbie England Joined 4695 days ago 30 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English*, German, Toki Pona Studies: French, Mandarin, Esperanto, Greek, Latin, Welsh | Message 13 of 17 28 October 2011 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I wish I could learn this beautiful version of our language, but there are so many declensions and conjugations that it would take more work than I am able to give it.
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| akprocks Senior Member United States Joined 5076 days ago 178 posts - 258 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 14 of 17 29 October 2011 at 3:36am | IP Logged | |||||
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I have an old English text book in my basement, maybe it's time to give it another crack so I can join in on this conversation.
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| Mauritz Octoglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 4858 days ago 223 posts - 325 votes Speaks: Swedish*, EnglishC2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, Esperanto, French Studies: Old English, Yiddish, Arabic (Written), Mandarin, Korean, Portuguese, Welsh, Icelandic, Afrikaans | Message 15 of 17 29 October 2011 at 11:58am | IP Logged | |||||
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@Deerhound: Don't be afraid of inflectional languages! I see that that you've for example Latin, and I can tell you
that the declensions and conjugations of Old English are much easier than Latin. Verbs are only conjugated for two tenses (present and perfect) and four persons (first, second and third singular as well as plural), accusative is very rarely marked and there are many, many similarities between different declensions. It's really not that hard when you get into it. @akprocks: Hwelc gōd sāwole! Afæstla is þæt gōd gehygd! Ic hopie þæt þū dōn swā! Ænglisc is, and ic ǣr sægde swā, swīþe wlitig sprǣc and þū lufast hīe hraðe. Edited by Mauritz on 29 October 2011 at 12:35pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Deerhound Triglot Newbie England Joined 4695 days ago 30 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English*, German, Toki Pona Studies: French, Mandarin, Esperanto, Greek, Latin, Welsh | Message 16 of 17 29 October 2011 at 10:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I thought there were lots of sub-groups of declensions and conjugations that complicated
things considerably? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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