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| Desertbandit Groupie Netherlands Joined 4909 days ago 80 posts - 104 votes  Speaks: Arabic (Iraqi)* | Message 1 of 9 07 May 2011 at 6:11pm | IP Logged |
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Im currently studying Japanese and I just can't get around it to get fluent fast Ill have to learn Kanji (and I know how )
BUT but but there is one but to this. If I invest allot of time into Kanji it would automaticly mean that all my other skills that I have developed in Japanse would fall behind or get weaker . My time a day for language learning is limited so I need to make up a balance but simply said how do I do that ? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 budonoseito Pro Member United States budobeyondtechnRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5614 days ago 261 posts - 344 votes Studies: French, Japanese Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 9 08 May 2011 at 4:25am | IP Logged |
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Not necessarily. If you study kanji while practicing reading it will build vocabulary at
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5190 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 3 of 9 08 May 2011 at 4:40am | IP Logged |
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I'm not sure I understand your question exactly, but I see no reason to separate kanji from regular learning.
Whenever a new word comes up, learn the kanji. Whenever you read a kanji you don't know, look it up. But when you are speaking, never mind the fact that you don't know the kanji; it doesn't matter. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5575 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 5 of 9 08 May 2011 at 4:48pm | IP Logged |
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Are you by any chance taking university classes? If not, don't worry. It'll come together in due time. I don't think learning all the jouyou kanji up front is a good idea for most learners (for some it may be, yes), because basically it means filling them with artificial meaning and sound.
Learning kanji in context tends to make you find your balance - when you have to use furigana, read a word incorrectly or have to look up kanji or words even though they seem very familiar, it's time for some reading drills. When you can read the words in a sentence just fine, but struggle to make sense of it, it's time for more grammar practice. (It could also mean that the material uses too few kanji to be taken seriously in that regard.) When you write by hand and the sheet has only a few scattered kanji on it, you know you need to spend more time on writing from memory. szastprast, of course one can be illiterate and perfectly fluent in the spoken language. It's just that if the language is written, it usually is easier to learn the written form and from it. Edited by Bao on 08 May 2011 at 4:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Desertbandit Groupie Netherlands Joined 4909 days ago 80 posts - 104 votes Speaks: Arabic (Iraqi)* | Message 6 of 9 08 May 2011 at 7:38pm | IP Logged |
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You guys, I can hold up basic conversations and understand Dramas and Anime quite well without subtiltes in Japanese, and I know hiragana so I can read a bit .
I just don't really know any Kanji and to catch up im planning one hardcore period to just do Kanji non stop , so that I can try to read japanese texts and sentences eventually . My Theory is You learn by reading , but to read you need to know the alphabet . Because my daily time is limited I wanted to learn the Kanji as fast as I can even if I have to sacrefice some of my other developed skills for that, my problem is Im not sure wether thats so smart.... I hope this cleared up my kind of vague first post. Also I do not follow a college class its all selfstudy baby . Edited by Desertbandit on 08 May 2011 at 7:39pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5190 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 8 of 9 09 May 2011 at 3:54pm | IP Logged |
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If you already understand dramas "quite well without subtitles", then you are already an advanced student. I suppose reading whatever interests you would expose you to most of the common kanji -- kanji for words you probably already know.
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