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| magictom123 Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5375 days ago 272 posts - 365 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 9 of 19 05 December 2010 at 7:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hmmm it seems to me that he coined the phrase in as far as meaning to follow along to
recorded audio whilst walking. Obviously, the technique of following along verbally whilst audio is playing did not start with the Prof. and as mentioned above nor indeed did the term shadowing suddenly appear with this meaning. I think we can credit the professor with popularising it though. However, my one gripe with all of this is that I believe (and have yet to see anything scientific to disprove this) that the walking element was added to it to distinguish it from what many other people do and to add something that could make the whole process seem as if it was original. I really don't think that walking around whilst shadowing has made any difference for me. I tried it when I first read about the method and have subsequently ditched it as after trying to shadow whilst sitting down in a chair or even just standing in the kitchen whilst doing the dishes I see no difference. All the same I admire the professor for his enthusiasm and abilities and I wouldn't mind being proved wrong about the walking element being tacked on but I see nothing that shows it is essential to developing your language ablities (not to say it would be detremental). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6457 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 10 of 19 05 December 2010 at 7:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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Shadowing as I walk quickly seems to have more effect. It seems that my brain is more active
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| Lucky Charms Diglot Senior Member Japan lapacifica.net Joined 6731 days ago 752 posts - 1711 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: German, Spanish | Message 11 of 19 06 December 2010 at 1:24am | IP Logged | ||
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@magictom123
Just walking normally makes no difference. You have to be walking briskly enough to get your heart pumping and blood flowing to the brain. I was skeptical for years until I gave it a real try recently. My brain felt so much more active, engaged, and focused, and my retention of the material increased so much, that I've actually begun to feel it's a waste of time to shadow while sitting down at a desk! 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6457 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 12 of 19 06 December 2010 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | ||
As I said in the previous message, I agree. I had the same experience, but I don't think that shadowing while sitting is a waste of time. It's only less eficient. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| magictom123 Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5375 days ago 272 posts - 365 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 13 of 19 06 December 2010 at 6:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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I did a shadowing session today on my assimil lesson, stood next to the cd player in the
kitchen. It was a good session. I think the key for me is not so much movement because I said I have noticed no difference, but rather my level if focus. I'm glad if walking quickly works great for you, but we all know with language learning, we need to find things that are effective for ourselves and for me it makes no discernable difference. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5163 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 14 of 19 06 December 2010 at 6:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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I know the term shadowing has been used in interpretation for a while. It refers to repeating what you hear in order to train your ability to hear and talk at the same time.
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| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4960 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 15 of 19 15 December 2010 at 9:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think I should have put a link before
http://shop.alc.co.jp/course/h4/lp/user.html#us02 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sterogyl Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4149 days ago 152 posts - 263 votes Studies: German*, French, EnglishC2 Studies: Japanese, Norwegian | Message 16 of 19 26 March 2013 at 12:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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Shadowing has been a technique at interpreting schools for a long time. I don't think that Prof. Arguelles invented it. At interpreting schools students are prompted to shadow recordings in their mother tongue and in their foreign language to train simultaneous listening and speaking. But they don't walk around.
I also find this technique very useful to learn a language and can only recommend it. However, it is a bit tiring and it becomes very annoying to shadow every Assimil lesson 10 times... I can confirm that you really assimilate the lessons you shadow ten times, but it's a pain in the ass. I couldn't do more than 40 lessons in Norwegian. Maybe I will continue. 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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