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| feanarosurion Senior Member Canada Joined 5068 days ago 217 posts - 316 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish, Norwegian | Message 33 of 49 08 September 2010 at 7:42am | IP Logged | ||
I have to agree with that, although, I think anyone who has studied a Uralic language will have a much easier time with Turkish grammar. There's still the age old debate about whether the Uralic and Altaic languages are directly related, but they definitely share a very large amount of grammatical concepts. They are both certainly very different from Indo-European, and as such, it will be of roughly equal difficulty to tackle languages from these families for an IE native speaker. However, I do believe that anyone who has studied a Uralic language will find Altaic languages to be very intuitive and easier to grasp, and vice versa. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| deniz2 Groupie TurkeyRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4939 days ago 53 posts - 62 votes | Message 34 of 49 01 December 2010 at 1:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have to agree with that, although, I think anyone who has studied a Uralic language will have a much easier time with Turkish grammar.
Turkish is not difficult, just very different. I don’t believe the difference will take too long to get used to because English, French and German didn’t take me so long. What German is to me is what Turkish is to the Europeans. If you count the rules and the exceptions I am sure they are far below French and German. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| deniz2 Groupie TurkeyRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4939 days ago 53 posts - 62 votes | Message 35 of 49 01 December 2010 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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For example; famous Turkish long-word: Çekoslovakyalılaştıramadıklarımızdansınız.
It means "You are one of those who we were not able to become Czechoslovakian " Sorry this translation is wrong. The correct one is: You are from those whom we were not able to resemble Czechoslovakian? The conjunction should be whom, not who. You can use who only in passive sentences like: Are you from those who were not able to be resembled Czechoslovakian? = Çekoslovakyalılaştırılamayanlardan mısınız? As to the difficulty of the suffixes do you think English would be more difficult if it was written like this? AreyoufromthosewhomwewerenotabletoresembleCzechoslovakian? No, because there is no COGNITIVE THİNKING here. In turkey the notebooks are very expensive so we fill the blanks with suffixes for saving! Just kidding. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Magdalla Triglot Newbie Ireland Joined 4926 days ago 7 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English*, German, Irish Studies: French, Italian, Spanish, Russian | Message 36 of 49 16 January 2011 at 1:47pm | IP Logged | ||
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My problem with that sentence above is that it is not translating into sensible English - what does it actually mean?
"You are one of those who we were not able to become Czechoslovakian " If there were a 'make' between 'to' and 'become', that would be different. But what is it expressing actually? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4965 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 37 of 49 16 January 2011 at 2:40pm | IP Logged | ||
I don't know much about Turkish, but judging from the description it's similar to Korean (plenty of such nuances): 예쁘다 - it is pretty, 예쁘네 - oh, it's beautiful (this one is somewhat hard, many textbooks explain this ending with different meaning) 예쁘구나 - wow! it's pretty! 예쁩디다 - I saw it was pretty (formal - they say it's no longer used, but they deal with it on DLI language course). So for someone familiar with Korean it's nothing new, although Korean does not have such long words like Turkish. So, as for the grammar, it's not so hard, once you remember the vowel harmony rules, and some sound changes(not as many as in European languages), it's really easy. I would not say it's harder than Hungarian! I don't know much about Hungarian, but the grammar is comparably hrd as Finnish and Estonian. There is plenty of loanwords from Arabic, so the vocabulary may be a little hard to learn though. Edited by clumsy on 16 January 2011 at 2:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| deniz2 Groupie TurkeyRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4939 days ago 53 posts - 62 votes | Message 38 of 49 17 January 2011 at 4:15pm | IP Logged | ||
You are right, that is why I said the conjunction would be whom. The translation is not only wrong but also grammatically false. It means absolutely nothing. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| deniz2 Groupie TurkeyRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4939 days ago 53 posts - 62 votes | Message 39 of 49 17 January 2011 at 4:21pm | IP Logged | ||
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I would not say it's harder than Hungarian!
I don't know much about Hungarian, but the grammar is comparably hrd as Finnish and Estonian.QUOTE] I don't understand what you say. You say that Turkish is easy and it is as easy as Finnish? This web site gives 5 marks to Finnish, one of the most difficult languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| zooplah Diglot Senior Member United States zooplah.farvista.net Joined 6155 days ago 100 posts - 116 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: German | Message 40 of 49 22 April 2013 at 7:27am | IP Logged | ||
It's the same in Esperanto. You have to get used to spotting the various cases. Of course, that's better than German, which has cases but also has a very rigid word order. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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