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laoshu505000
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 Message 1 of 17
27 January 2009 at 3:11pm | IP Logged 
Hello my friends,

I hope this won't be a problem making a thread here on my language process and suggestions for those of you who are learning these languages as well. I've acknowledged there being a 'language log' thread, but I guess I would have to list some other languages in my profile.

As I was saying before,it would be nice if everyone would update their language progress at the end of every month, which would include at least one video they've made in that language. It could be an introduction video or of any other topic depending on how much you know in the language. You would also want to list the resources you've used for learning the language and the places where you normally practice the language.

As I've mentioned before in a different thread, I've started doing something new starting from 2009. Basically, I will choose 4 brand new languages to work on and 4 older ones I've worked on before. I will study two languages at the same time intensively for 3 months aiming to obtain intermediate-low advanced level. As far as my other languages are concerned, I take at least 1-2 hours to practice/study them over the weekend or sometime during the week if I have time to do so. For the intensive study languages, I will study for at least 5-6 hours straight.

(Georgian Progress)
-Reading/Writing (Advanced)
-Speaking (Beginner)
-Listening (Beginner)

OVERALL: (High Beginner)

Duration of study: 1 Month after this weekend although some time was lost.
Deadline:April 1st

Georgian introduction video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4yg0wjTF6g

Comments: Georgian is a difficult language, but at the same time is very interesting and beautiful.I find most of the difficulties with grammar and finding a place where I could use Georgian consistently during my time of study. There are times when I would go to the chat room I go to and not be able to get most of the Georgians to chat or the room would just be empty. Perhaps it's do to a time difference.With a bit more interaction with more Georgians, I could improve a lot faster than the pace I'm going at now.It's a slow process for me now, but I've learned a lot this month. I'm going to have to work twice as hard within these next 2 months to succeed at what I'm trying to obtain.

Resources:

Beginner Program
Peace Corps Georgia
http://uz-translations.net/?category=%F1aucasian-caubooks&al tname=georgian_language_beginner_program

It is imperative..I repeat..it is absolutely imperative to start off with this course before using George's course. It comes with audio and is very easy to use.


http://www.armazi.com/georgian/

This is pretty much a grammar page where they explain cases and what not.

Georgian
A Learner's Grammar
Second Edition

George Hewitt

I think this book is really good. It's received poor reviews over at Amazon, but I support George and thank him for making this wonderful book on Georgian.It may not be for everybody since everyone has their own method for learning. Anyway, you can find this book here:

http://uz-translations.net/?category=caubooks-%F1aucasian&al tname=georgian_a_learners_grammar

I use an English-Georgian and Georgian- English dictionary. The Georgian-English dictionary isn't the best, but it's better than nothing. Here are the links:

http://uz-translations.net/?category=caudics-%F1aucasian&alt name=georgian-english-georgian_dictionary

http://uz-translations.net/?category=caudics-%F1aucasian&alt name=EnglishGeorgian_Dictionary


Here are the links for the forums and chat rooms I go to for practice:

http://www.sharedtalk.com/

Sharedtalk has some Georgians come in sometimes, but....not enough for the practice you would need for learning a language.

http://www.chat.ge/

This is the main chat room I go to for practicing Georgian.Many of the people here can't speak English so it can be tough. If you speak any other languages like Russian, Armenian, Greek or even German, you could use those to communicate with many of them. I've met 2 people so far who are able to speak English fluently. It's a good site for practicing Georgian.

http://www.unilang.org/

Many of you probably are already familiar with Unilang. This is a good site for making journals for getting help from other learners of the language you're studying or by the natives.You could make some good friends here as well.

Well, that's it as far as resources for learning Georgian.

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Lus Hmoob (Hmong) Progress

Reading/Writing- (Advanced)
Speaking- (Low Intermediate)
Listening- (Low Intermediate)

OVERALL: (Intermediate)
Duration of study: 2 months after this weekend.
Deadline: April 1st

Hmong video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYX2_1yRlJQ

Comments:
This is a very fun language to learn.There are many places to practice and interact with native Hmong speakers which helped me obtain the level I'm currently on. The practice is very consistent. I've found a VERY good forum where I could meet Hmong speakers and get journals corrected at the same time.I have several chat rooms I go to for practicing and they are very good.

As far as difficulties, the pronunciation could be a bit difficult for those who aren't experienced in learning East Asian languages. The grammar isn't bad at all- it follows the same rule as English 'SVO' I'm getting a lot out of this language and from the way it looks, I will be able to obtain the low advanced level by the deadline as long as I keep studying hard.

Resources:

http://faculty.matcmadison.edu/kher/hmong_phrases.htm
This site has a lot of phrases and short stories with audio. Great site.

http://www.hmongabc.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=6 57
Make sure to purchase the CD along with the book. They sell them both separately.You will need this for pronunciation. It is very important to get this course.

http://www.amazon.com/Hmong-Dictionary-Hmong-English/dp/0972 696415/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233088766&sr=8-1
A very good Hmong dictionary;however, it's Hmong-English. That second link I've posted above has an English-Hmong dictionary as well. I've recently ordered this one.

http://www.freelang.net/online/hmong.php?lg=gb

This is an online English-Hmong dictionary, but it's a bit limited.

Forums:
http://www.hmongza.com/index.php

These forums are GREAT!people will help you whenever you need help an they will correct your journals whenever you make one. They will reply to you all in Hmong which is a good thing.

Chat rooms:

http://zoosiab.com/users_new.php

This is a good chat room where you can practice Hmong. It's not VERY big, but it's still useful.

http://www.soft82.com/download/Windows/PalTalk

This Paltalk program is where you will meet A LOT of Hmongs. This is my most used chat room for practicing Hmong. Not only will you be able to type to them, you can listen to them speak or sing in Hmong as well. I highly recommend those you who are going to learn Hmong download this PalTalk. If you decide to download it, all you would have to do is type 'Hmoob' or 'Hmong' in the search for chat and the rooms will pop up for you.

Well, that's pretty much it for the Hmong resources I've been using. This is pretty much all you need for this language, along with some motivation. If you guys have any questions, I will be glad to answer them.




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 Message 2 of 17
28 January 2009 at 2:08am | IP Logged 
What a wealth of valuable information! I almost feel sorry for not having the time to start learning especially the Georgian language, which I found to be very interesting already during my travels in that country. I'm sure that those who can fit it into their study plans will benefit immensely from your long and detailed posting.
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sajro
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 Message 3 of 17
01 February 2009 at 6:59pm | IP Logged 
Good luck in your studies! As you've proven before, you can do anything you set your mind to.

A little suggestion: Maybe you could post a thread with some of your favourite resources for the other languages you speak and study. I'm sure it would help the forum members immensely. :)
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 Message 4 of 17
01 February 2009 at 10:57pm | IP Logged 
This is a fantastic thread and also an important one for those with any interest in Georgian, since the ready availability of English-language resources is almost nil.

Another suggestion might be to have this thread moved to the Language Log section, or even the General forum where it will likely garner more viewers.

Edited by ChristopherB on 02 February 2009 at 6:10pm

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Achiko8
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 Message 5 of 17
03 February 2009 at 3:36am | IP Logged 
I've seen your youtube video in which you speak in Georgian, and wow, for such a short period of learning you are doing well. I am a native Georgian speaker.

And I didn't think there was any resources of Georgian for English-speakers.
You guessed it right that most Georgians wouldn't be on the net the same time as you because of the difference in time (9 hours). Even I have a problem communicating to my family/friends because of this (I currently live in the US).

As for the dictionary, I always used this online dictionary --> http://www.translate.ge/
It is both Georgian-English and English Georgian dictionary. It is very easy to use and its content is usually very accurate.

Anyway, I am a native Georgian speaker who currently lives in the US (Eastern Time Zone), so if you want to improve your language skills using chat interaction, I'd be willing and happy to help you.

Edited by Achiko8 on 03 February 2009 at 3:54am

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laoshu505000
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 Message 6 of 17
03 February 2009 at 4:42pm | IP Logged 
Achiko8 wrote:
I've seen your youtube video in which you speak in Georgian, and wow, for such a short period of learning you are doing well. I am a native Georgian speaker.

And I didn't think there was any resources of Georgian for English-speakers.
You guessed it right that most Georgians wouldn't be on the net the same time as you because of the difference in time (9 hours). Even I have a problem communicating to my family/friends because of this (I currently live in the US).

As for the dictionary, I always used this online dictionary --> http://www.translate.ge/
It is both Georgian-English and English Georgian dictionary. It is very easy to use and its content is usually very accurate.

Anyway, I am a native Georgian speaker who currently lives in the US (Eastern Time Zone), so if you want to improve your language skills using chat interaction, I'd be willing and happy to help you.


Hello there my friend,

Welcome to our language base. Thanks for posting up that Georgian dictionary. I think it's a lot better than the one I've been using. I hope to improve my Georgian some more this month. I will keep in touch with you.

best,

Moses McCormick
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 Message 7 of 17
05 March 2009 at 7:09pm | IP Logged 
Those interested in Georgian should know about:

Howard I. Aronson. Georgian: A Reading Grammar. Columbus, Ohio: Slavica Publishers, Inc., 1989.

It comes with 4 full hours of recording.

This is a very comprehensive course (500+ pages) that presupposes a great deal of prior linguistic experience on the part of the learner. The grammatical explanations are highly detailed, with frequent references to other languages, and the sample sentences are likewise long and sophisticated from the earliest chapters. The recordings are also never didactic but rather full native speed from the outset. There is an answer key after each chapter so it is perfectly suited for self-study. All in all, a very serious manual suitable for very serious learners.

Alexander Arguelles
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laoshu505000
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 Message 8 of 17
05 March 2009 at 7:14pm | IP Logged 
Thanks a lot professor,

I've heard of this course, but didn't know there was that much audio for it. Thanks a lot.

Moses McCormick


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