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| roncy Pentaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5743 days ago 105 posts - 112 votes  Speaks: French*, English, German, Spanish, Latin | Message 9 of 70 28 October 2008 at 3:45am | IP Logged | |||||
How dare you make such a sweeping judgement as you know no Latin. "Old" doesn't interest you, you find it "inferior", your own words, remember. So what are you doing here? Hic nobis Latine scribendum est. Nisi lingua Latina uti scis, tace. Omnia quae in hoc foro scribis stulta sunt: nulla nisi recentissima tibi utilia esse videntur, omnia cetera parvi momenti. Abi cubitum, sine crustulis, tibi hodie non dantur cum puer male educatus sis. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6529 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 10 of 70 28 October 2008 at 5:15am | IP Logged | |||||
On the contrary: if Cicero and Vergilius and Thomas Aquinas and Saxo Grammaticus read my feeble and error-ridden contributions here they would rotate in their graves. But as I wrote: you have to try. That's the only way to learn a language properly. (sorry Roncy, but I had to write this in English in order to puncture an unfounded assumption, - but anyway thanks for your confidence, zerothinking. If I can make a total nauseating mess superficially look like proper Latin then I'm on the right track) Gaudium mihi magnum est gentem videre hic latine scribere. Quod possibile est latine cotidiane de factis coditidianis scribere videmur ex iste ephemeride cum annuntibus latinis. Etiam Wikipediam Latinam habimus quamquam minuscula est. Edited by Iversen on 06 November 2008 at 3:16am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Nozomi Newbie Japan Joined 5725 days ago 24 posts - 24 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin, Italian, Spanish, Japanese | Message 11 of 70 28 October 2008 at 4:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Iversen, video habes scientiam linguam Italiae. Volo scīo linguam Italiae sed nescīo quomodo. Nonne manga similis ad Latinam? (would it be in the Dative? My teacher said that Dative is only giving, showing, telling; but I don't know how to express it otherwise. We haven't done the Dative case formally yet, so that could be why I don't understand.) Itaquene lepida lingua?
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| zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6198 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English* | Message 12 of 70 29 October 2008 at 2:01am | IP Logged | |||||
Sorry. I agree I can't make a good judgement. From my point of view it seemed, well, very good for Latin. Maybe it's the reputation people give Latin and the fact I thought barely anyone could even formulate sentence in it anymore. "Old" stories and such seem not to interest me. I felt they were inferior but I've changed my mind a little bit. I don't think any language is inferior. I never said a language was inferior if it was old, that's twisting my view of stories and their ability to interest me. Latin is pretty interesting but I wouldn't learn it. I have no reason to learn it. I only see three reasons for doing so. To learn the romance language family inside out. To understand where many words come from in many languages including English because that 'floats your boat'. Or to read old literature in Latin, which as you know I don't find attractive enough to learn Latin. I appreciate your enthusiasm and helping me. But I can't help but think that your 'helping' me is really a sort of attack on me for my views. I don't think you understand what I meant in the other post or what I was asking and trying to express. Please do not take it offensively. I was never bashing old literature per se. I used the word 'seems' and I was also talking about it's ability to entertain me. I hadn't seen the other benefits that some other people in the forum described to me that literature brings. I understand now that it's not all about the entertainment value with literature and that's not why they are always hailed and read so voraciouslly. Peace. Edited by zerothinking on 29 October 2008 at 2:05am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6529 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 13 of 70 29 October 2008 at 5:37am | IP Logged | |||||
"Similis" cum genetivo vel dativo conjungatur. Mangae japonicae non mihi impressionem faciunt quidlibet modo latinae similes esse. Lingua italica facilior percipenda est per hispanicam linguam. Latina scilicet vocabularium dat, sed grammatica hispanicae linguae similior est quam latinae. Edited by Iversen on 29 October 2008 at 12:07pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| roncy Pentaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5743 days ago 105 posts - 112 votes Speaks: French*, English, German, Spanish, Latin | Message 14 of 70 29 October 2008 at 10:17am | IP Logged | |||||
Latin: Si melius cogitare perrexeris, bene tibi eveniet et maior facultas cogitandi/philosophandi tibi erit. Veniam da mihi qui stultum te esse putavi. Mea culpa sed errare, ut aiunt, humanum est. Verbis tuis recentissimis demonstavisti te non, ut mihi adhuc videbaris, hebeti ingenio esse. Bono animo esto, non iam tibi insectabor. Pax. English: If you go on thinking things over you'll do well and will strengthen your thinking powers. Sorry I thought you were an idiot, my mistake but, as they say, to err is human. You have now proved not to be burdened with a shackled mind, as you seemed to be. Rest assured I won't get at you ever again. Peace. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6529 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 15 of 70 04 November 2008 at 3:12pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Nunc Zerothinking satis de Roncy castigatus est effrenatae suae audaciae declarandae quod non necesse sit autores classices legere, etiam satis vituperatus est propter imprudentiam suam ponendi parvitam meam quidem ullo de linguae latinae scire - quamquam clare omnibus est quod ego nihil omnino scio. Pax facta est - sed etiam silentia facta est.
Quaero silentiam rumpere et de disciplina latina aliquid afferre. In schola 15-16 annos natus primum latinam accepi (se non annumeramus tentationes meas nomines animalis interpretari). Postea cognitiones meas de latine extendi lectionibus. Uterque praeceptor modum decendum "legendum - vertendum" applicavit. Post hoc semper dixi modum iste miserrimum esse quia de Ciceronem ad nihilem legendum citissimo deterioratus sum. Sed nunc video quod cito verba latina mihi revertantur ac etiam sentio quod latine cogitare mihi facilitus sit quam expectavi. Modus vetus scilicet non tantum stultus fuit - sed pars eloquentiam obtinenda de modo "legendo - vertendo" defuit. Ars autores classices legenda constituit, modus vero efficiens facultatem obtinendam latine loqui certe non fuit. Ut latine loqui aut cogitare experimentum autores classices imitari non commendabilium est. Necesse est de verbis simplicissimis per sententias imperfectas ad sententias perfectas sed simplices progredire, sed disciplina modo spectabat ut autores difficiles legiremus, non ad loquendam et non ad latine cogitandum. Et errores linguae non quam pretium inevitabile eloquentiae obtinendae considerabantur sed quam signum stultitiae aut pigritiae. Per autores indicis verborum 'lingua X - lingua latina' munus non est indicis 'lingua latina - lingua X' invertere et non est cogitiones Caesari aut Ovidii verbis linguae X exprimere - munus e contrario est cogitiones hominis cotidianis in latine vertere. Quamobrem necesse est copia verborum lectoris tollere (sicut in indicibus anglorum, francogallis, teudiscis, italicis aut danicis inveniatur) atque in linguam latinam vertere. Aliter lectores destituunt. Ut primum discipuli cogitare ac loqui sciunt tempus iucundus est autores difficiles introducere. Studiosus qui cogitat ac loquatur cito procedit et non rapide cognitionis suis obliviscitur. Discipulis qui modo legere et vertere potest latinam suam mox in oblivione tradet. Edited by Iversen on 06 November 2008 at 3:02am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6485 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 16 of 70 05 November 2008 at 5:35pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Si non dormandus sum scribam conscriptionem longam. Universitatis Stockholmiensis ex lunæ Sextile Linguam Latinam studui. Uh.. Nescio quod loquendus sum. Vale. Edited by Hampie on 05 November 2008 at 5:36pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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